Thank you. Will the original reveal be invitation only or will it simply be on display throughout the weekend for the Grand Prix?
The reveal will be for registered participants of the Ferrari Factory Cavalcade International USA that starts in Nashville/TN 28 April and ends in Miami/FL 3 May 2024. Attendance to this world premiere night is included in the participation fee of US$ 58'000. Marcel Massini
I was told and it could be wrong that power increase was small but to watch out for the RPM as it had a big increase. 10K would be a great number to go out on... time will tell.
I won’t mind a small bump in power if they can shave a couple of hundred pounds from the carcass Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
It's very unlikely it will be much less weight than the 812, if at all, let alone a couple of hundred pounds less. Ferrari don't care much about building lightweight cars these days. Adding lightness would cut into their profits.
Let me clarify, 40 hp alone isnt enough as an upgrade unless other aspects of the car goes through substantial improvements. In the case of 812, RWS and transmission as well as side slip control improvements were major upgrades. As much as these were improvements, they are on the simple side of implementation. They are not brand new untested technologies. This time around, the only new tech that would have a profound change in driving character is the suspension tech from the SUV. But that adds a lot of weight and some feel is lost (artificial) so not sure if Ferrari would implement it in F167. My point being, other things complementary to 40 hp are needed and unlike in 812, I dont see obvious candidates here (if we are ruling out hybrid). Also we can take clues from the special edition version of F12 TDF and how those things showed up in 812 (traction management, RWS, higher redline) and if we do the same with 812 comp, we see that all it has is higher redline and more hp.
Well, something missing from this discussion is the opportunity to spec your V12. For myself, it would not have mattered if the 812 was simply a mild incremental increase in hp. Heck, I probably would not have cared if it was the same hp. But it was the first V12 that we could spec exactly how we wanted with no compromises in color/materials/options. For you veterans that might not matter. But for me it was great! Same in the 167. I don’t give a rat’s rear if it has any more power than the 812. If it is beautiful, I will order with my idea of the perfect spec. Oh, and I hardly think active suspension is a trivial upgrade either. But then I don’t track my cars. Just drive and enjoy them. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
That´s funny! I also sketch mostly from memory. Here are a few examples from the last few days (quickly done with a BiC-pen while watching TV or hearing music/the drawing of the F12 was created today during a boring phone call). There may be mistakes too (but who cares).
I would guess yes on full production. I received an email from my dealer yesterday inquiring my interest in attending the Miami F1 weekend and it explicitly listed a new Ferrari reveal on the agenda for the weekend.
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I predict F167 will have 850 CV which is 838 BHP and will be called 850 GTB and 850 GTS or 850 plus some other tribute to past model or place
A few observations based on this photo: 1. Most interesting is that top of rear fenders appear to be “blown” meaning air flowing through them on top and providing more downforce to the rear as indicated by the tent-like protrusions atop both left and right rear fenders. THIS may be all that was meant by d355 comments that F167 will conjure images of a jet fighter when seen from the rear and that we will be talking about the rear and that the car will be most impressive when seen moving through traffic. 2. The rear end is much more petite and tailored than the 812 as a response to criticism of that model’s avoirdupois. 3. It seems that the exhaust is more traditional ala F12 and 812 SF type twin dual exhausts, rather than similar to that on the Competizione. At this advanced stage of prototype, if they were going to run a Competizione style exhaust it would have to be evident by now. I would love to hear d355’s comments on this…
