It looks like you are in Italy? The 812SF you noted as being an owner in March 2019 but not in October 2018, and 812SF for EU were receiving GPF in 2019 model year, it seems you traded your 812SF for the 812GTS? But, if you still have the 812SF, open the hood and look: Image Unavailable, Please Login
Always in the ear of the beholder. I've also had both, the GTS for 1 day, and will never sell my '19 SF. Never a right or wrong, just personal perception and mine was completely the opposite. Hence, the parting of the ways...
It looks longer than the 812 with an even longer bonnet. Is this because the bonnet has to allow room for a hybrid system as well as the V12 engine ?
Maybe I am wrong but no hybrid stickers on it. So perhaps an evolution of the typo F140 or a brand new V12 without hybridization like Steiners said few years ago?
had the 812 gts for a day next to my 812 SF, i completely diagree with your statement. the 812 sf is miles better
I have not had it for a day .. and in any case I report what my ears have perceived. I will say more .. IMHO the GTS sounds better even in the downshift. The music as well as the sound is quite subjective in terms of satisfaction, so different opinions are welcome.
The front quarter panel where the Ferrari shield usually is, looks massive, almost twice the size in area compared to a 812SF. Or, the front wheels are pushed very much forward as to have no front over hang of body work. If this is the development mule of the F167 as @day355 claims, what powerplant is lurking? It does sound like a V12, although much more muted than normal.
I'm guessing its both a longer wheelbase and the front wheels pushed further forward. This would be necessary to accommodate a much larger powertrain compared to the 812 whilst keeping everything behind the front axle. The engine will be smaller which means there is another mode of propulsion to assist with the power needed.
I would seriously doubt Ferrari developping a completely new V12 powertrain.... combining the current one with a battery would make the most sense and obvious choice. That's what Lambo is supposedly also doing. The development costs for such a new engine with only a very limited window they can use it doesn't seem justified. We can only dream of a small bore screaming NA V12 engine, but that seems as legit as sticking 2 turbo's on the current 6.5 V12.
I hate to point out what may seem obvious, but could the GTS seeming louder than non-GPF SF possibly be due to the fact that the GTS doesn’t have a roof so you can hear the exhaust better? I assume this was taken into account in the various comments, but I think it goes without saying that a GTS with the top down will inevitably seem louder from the drivers seat than an SF with the windows up, regardless of GPF or not.
Thank Christ that's only a mule!!! Ugghh. Looks like a 612. I am not a fan at all of that iteration of the V12s. I also prefer a car costing over $400K to look the part- not Lamborghini obscene, but a bit more aggressive than an F12 (which I owned). Oh, and round taillights. Those oval/whatever they are newer ones just look silly and unFerrari-like to me. But, I'm sure your wife is beautiful as well.........
You've just described the 812's aesthetics, which will be a very hard act to follow even for Ferrari's engineering magicians.
I applaud your photoshop skills. They’ve been steadily improving. That said, I hope you have not revealed the final form because that car looks looong.
That is certainly a very plausible explanation. However, from my personal experience after waiting almost a year for my GTS to arrive and then driving the car with the roof open, I immediately noticed a very muddled high-revving engine note that the non-GPF engine doesn't produce in my SF with the windows closed. The difference in engine note through all RPM's was quite obvious, to me. I then passed on the car for that reason alone - much to the chagrin of FNA, I'm sure. Again, to each their own, only to enjoy! In trying to keep with the thread topic, I'm afraid this is the way it will be/it is with GPF engines (muted engine note vs non) thanks to EU regs, unfortunately. On the positive side, better sound than EV's
i think we should all pay more attention on what is @day355 saying. He is one of very few here who actually SAW the car. Most of us just saw the mule of 812sf body with Roma front and back. A mule. I wish he would say little more about it, but i understand him.
