Do you know what surprises and saddens me? How is it possible that the enlightened people who control the design destinies at Ferrari look at this picture and don't immediately see that the emblem on the F80 could never have been placed where it is. The desire to always be original and the apparent lack internal critical capacity at Ferrari, result in this and other, much worse aberrations.
Shades of the Porsche 911 (996 version) and the Porsche Boxster (986 version) of the same time frame sharing a look... Another muck up like the 2023 Ferrari SP3 being called the 'Daytona' instead of using that name for the other V12 they called the 12 Cilindri a year later. Plus greater exposure for that name considering the numbers of 12 Cilindri that will be built going forward.
In the case of the 12 C, retro cues like the Dayatona-inspired headlight "visor" may eventually make some sense as we are talking about two V12 front engine models. However, these retro cues inspired by the 365 GTB/4 seem completely unreasonable in the case of the front of the F80. Someone said that good design is usually 5% inspiration and 95% perspiration. However, the idea that remains when looking at the latest Ferrari models is that a lot is retro inspiration combined with futuristic concepts. IMO the final result has been an amalgamation that only seems to be genius in the eyes of its creators.
365 GTB/4 #11795, Pininfarina press pic. Look where the yellow badge is. Marcel Massini Image Unavailable, Please Login
Every time I see this image, I'm taken aback. Does anyone find this angle flattering? Admittedly, I'm not the car's biggest fan, but I don't mind the shape. Except from this angle. Sheesh. The black trim on the F80 works better to my eyes than it does on the 12C. But I still don't like it. I don't understand this new kick Manzoni is on. I liked his designs to this point. To me, Ferrari designs should be a good marriage of auto racing heritage, glamour and elegance. Where did these SciFi and aeronautical influences come from? I hope someone reigns this in. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Google Apple ("Jony" Ive) and some tech guys. Check who's on the board and who runs the factory. Marcel Massini
Actually I think it is a great angle to illustrate that characteristic crease along the top of the front fender. The crease is most noticeable on the passenger fender in this image showing an exaggerated curve at the front end. The original 365GTB/4 'Daytona' also shared a similar crease on the top of it's fenders to but without the extreme curvature at the front. Ironically when the old Daytona would be restored the body man would build in a bit of curvature at the front of the crease because he liked the look. Even though the curvature was not there originally... Image Unavailable, Please Login The fender crease without the curvature some cars were restored with.
Perhaps, though in sum, I think the car looks awful from that angle. I don't like the design, but I don't think the car is ugly - except in this picture. I suspect that the proportions are distorted in this image and it won't actually look this way as you walk towards the car. At least I hope not!
At McLaren, not making V12s. There is no such thing as a specialised V12 engineer. All engine engineers are trained in school to be able to design all kinds of engines (even turbines). Then they get to specialise on the job. A good example is the legendary Paolo Martinelli, the Head of Engines for the Scuderia during Ferrari's dominance in the 2000s. He left the Scuderia and went to the mother company (then FCA), in the FPT (Fiat Power Trains) department, where he developed 4 cylinder engines and even diesels. There is no such thing as a dedicated V12, or V10, engineer. Ferrari can start developing a new V12 this Monday, should they choose to. Leiters joined Ferrari in 2014, years after Ferrari's last V12 (the F140) was designed and after even the launch of the LaFerrari. Leiters did not design-develop engines himself, he was the Chief Technical Officer, i.e. the project manager.
Car has not grown on me unfortunately. Will reserve final judgment until I drive it but I’m not leaning towards buy.
Manzoni without proper guidance and restrictiveness from a leader like Montezemolo. https://www.designboom.com/technology/ferrari-spaceship-concept-flavio-manzoni-05-07-2015/
Megapolis is the last movie by Francis Ford Coppola, a filmmaker who made at least four of the greatest films of the 20th century. Megapolis is a confused shallow mess made by someone who reached a point in his life and career where he cares more about speaking to an audience than pleasing it. I think there is an analogy between this latest Copolla movie and some of Manzoni's latest Ferrari designs because they are creations in which the artists seem to have done just what pleased them and their egos. However, there is a big difference, Copolla invested $120 million of his own money to make that eccentricity named Megapolis and, as far as I know, Manzoni never invested a cent of his money in Ferrari, on the contrary, it is the Maranello's company that made him a rich man.
Coppola is a great director indeed. I didn’t see megalopolis yet and I got your analogy perfectly. Don’t know if it’s a valid one. Interesting comparison nevertheless . I did exactly the same recently with some famous French « chef » about gastronomy.
The SP3 correctly called Daytona to celebrate a famous win by a car which inspired it's design... I dislike the 12C name too but Calling it 'Daytona' would be a right folly... it was called the 365 GTB/4.. Daytona was just a nickname.
This engine is at the end of its development and will not receive heavy hybridization, because the car would be far too heavy for its purpose. The idea is rather to extend the cycle and see the regulations as 2030 approaches. Personally, I think that this car should be entered in racing, like the time of the 575, then that at the commercial level it should be available in Competizione version, then in Gr 4 stradale version.
You're wrong, it's going to age very well, and visually it's very elegant in dynamic mode on the road
