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Discussion in 'FF/GTC4Lusso/F12/812S' started by MalibuGuy, Sep 22, 2018.

  1. Solid State

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    Actually well put:

    Forget that V6 Dino revival nonsense, throw the dogs a bone with a hybrid V8 whatever, but at the top should always be a scorching, screaming V12 that reminds everybody you should feel a Ferrari coming down the road, not just see or hear it.
     
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  2. deltona

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  4. TAM340R

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    Would this GRIGIO GTS color be available for other models ?

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  5. Marcel Massini

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    Sure, tailor made, special paint by Zanasi. Probably delays car at least six more months.

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  6. TAM340R

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    Did not know that....they send the cars to be painted there ? @!...?


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  7. Marcel Massini

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    Same as what happened with LaFerraris etc.

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  8. TAM340R

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    The 812GTS is not a high high end model ....I suppose that FERRARI is also well "tooled" to achieve the painting in-house ....what is the logique ?

    Tam
     
  9. greyboxer

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    The rarer & more expensive the color option chosen the more likely it is not to be painted on the regular line (and quite often significantly delayed)

    I believe a recent example of significant delays was the Portofino ordered in the new launch color !
     
  10. Marcel Massini

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    Has zero to do with the model. It depends if it is a one-off/special color.
    There are plenty of threads on ferrarichat that deal with this situation already.
    Use the search function.

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  11. day355

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    Work in progress :D
     
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  12. MDEL

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    “In architectural terms, a buttress is defined as a structural member built against or projecting from a wall serving as a support or reinforcement”. The buttress as applied to Ferrari spiders isn’t so much a structural element but a styling and an aerodynamic feature. The buttresses on the rear of the Aperta 2005 when viewed sideways are very similar in design to the ones of the 812 GTS demonstrating that this feature has been in use in modern Ferraris V12 front engine for at least fourteen years. In 2012/2013 renders of a F12 Spider were published and then we saw an evolution of the Aperta buttresses to something more like a “hunchback” as already existed on the F420 Spider 2005. The F12 TRS 2014 was the first open top front engine V12 modern Ferrari to fully apply to the rear this concept of the buttresses like hunchbacks. The concept was later applied to the SP3 JC rear design and now to the 812 GTS.

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  13. REALZEUS

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    I hope it is structural, otherwise I would be really worried if the car overturned... One of the many reasons I prefer coupes over convertibles.
     
  14. Elisesko

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    Like Marcel said. Here is an old one. $15,000 painted shields.

     
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  15. BarryK

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    As @MDEL says, the buttresses are not structural. They simply cover the the fixed rollover hoops immediately behind the seats.
     
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  16. REALZEUS

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    Same difference... As long as there is something sturdy behind my head, I am happy. They are not there just for aero purposes, that is the whole point.
     
  17. MDEL

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    I also prefer coupes over convertibles.
    The buttresses are part of the moving boot cover A) as seen in the picture. The tip of the buttresses B) locks the moving boot cover over C) which is the element behind the seats that acts as the roll-bar in the eventuality of a roll-over.
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  18. C50

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    Thanks for posting that
    I’d seen it years ago and was recently looking for it again, unsuccessfully.
     
  19. Elisesko

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    No problem! Took me many combinations of Google words for it to finally pop up. Thought they might have taken it down.
     
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  20. Garretto

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    They do that but also are an integral part of the foldable roof system. Should they have decided to avoid the buttresses, the roof system and anti-roll devices would have had to be very different. Bottom line for me is that it's a lazy design because they simply chose to use very similar retractable hardtop like in many past models. Many would have preferred a cleaner look, those buttresses are pretty big, visually disturbing IMO.

    Classic racing car buttresses started for aerodynamic reasons (minimizing drag behind driver's head), eventually coming handy for structural/rollover and aesthetic reasons.

    @MDEL there was never an official F12 spider sketch/render. Also the buttresses in the TRS are smaller than the usual ones and look really nice, but then again that's a one-off and doesn't have a retractable roof. BTW you're confusing Superamerica with SA Aperta.
     
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  22. ScuderiaDE

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    The color on that car is a special Maserati paint color called "Grigio Alfieri"
     
  23. deltona

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    Can I ask where you got that information from? I know Grigio Alfieri very well from the Maserati Granturismo and i would say it is a much lighter shade than the 'Grigio GTS' car.
     
  24. Garretto

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    Looks like that's not correct, according to the plate. Maybe they're similar colours but it's very clear: "Grigio GTS"
     

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