'84 308 GTSi Advice needed: Sell? Repair?

Part it out!! I'll take the hood...the roof spoiler...the seats...I'll just send you a list. Other than that I may be interested in purchasing it to piece back together. PM me what you decide what you'd like to get for it.

 

coolant expansion tank...I also have a short list...
dump it on ebay, even with full disclosure you'd probably get decent coin ( if you actually get paid---never transfer title with out funds clearing)..where is the car

 

Rob,
Post some pictures.... that will really get this thread rolling.
Good Luck.

 

It's worth $10k as a parts car, $20k+ if you do the work to part it out yourself. Or, find an eagar DIYer who can fix it for half or less what your shop quoted. $125 an hour for labor is a huge chunk of their bill. I would think such a guy would pay more than the $10k parts value.

I would NOT pay a shop to restore it just to sell it.

Ken

 

Don't settle for one opinion get more and compare, but never part out a coplete (intact) Ferrari try ItalianAuto in Arizona they are like Ferrari dismantler and they do have 308 parting out with a good complete motor and tranny.

 

i agree with ken: don't fix just to sell.

fix to keep or just sell as is. who knows, there could be other items that need fixing that will be discovered only after work has started, pushing the final bill higher than your current estimate. shame part it out, it seems recoverable, just very expensive to do it. maybe you could sit on it for another ten years...might be worth fixing then...

john

 

get a second opinion on the repairs (trust no one esp. when there is a Ferrari in sight) .

I was told by a well known dealer that my Mondial was beyond economical repair and I should not even drive it off their lot since the damage will be made even worse....they could not give me a written estimate and wanted a lot of money to "open up the engine" just to be able to write me a estimate. They racked up some nice repair bills on stuff the car did not even need before I could get it away from them....car needed nothing..the flywheel was just "rattling" making a horrible sound from the engine.

Rule # 2..
Never get "upside down" on a car you want to sell

 

I would agree with many of the others. Fix to keep, or sell as is.

 

Once you open up the engine / trans, there's no turning back. I am refreshing my QVs engine and trans and am on the north side of $10G - and the engine is still in parts and I'm doing most of the work myself. As stated above, either blow it out the way it is, put it back in storage, or bite the bullet and plan on keeping the car then the crying is over.

 

Put new timomg belts and seals, and take it for a good drive. Your "cylinders that need help" may come back to life after a few miles. You diff should free itslef up after a fluid change and a drive. I'll bet you could have it on the road again for about 6k.

But the fuel system on these cars can be eaten away by bad fuel so further problems could show up down the road.

I fired up a 308 after ten years of sitting and it ran great.

 

Dude, listen to Tbrakowski, listen hard. I have no clue why you let a perfectly good car go to waste, but whatever the reasons, the car needs to be DRIVEN. Belts and a few other misc. other items will keep it from self destructing. Drive it a few days or weeks and re-evaluate. Run some fuel system cleaner (in low doses) through it and burn off a few good tank fulls of fuel. You may be happily surprised that the car will come back. Do not part it out, and do not sell it off to a parts house. There are people out there will pay good money for a running QV with issues. Party on. The only fix is belts and a heavy foot. Car will tell you later if its tired or not.

 

If you have a limite slip differential, then it's certainly possible the friction plates have stuck together because of rust/corrosion between them - driving and turning the car in that condition could well break the differential, usually this happens by destroying the diff gears. If you don't have a limited slip, and hence no friction plates, then it is highly unlikely the diff gears are negatively affected by sitting. The phrase "spider gears in the differential are bound up" doesn't make a lot of sense. The phrase "the friction plates in your limited slip differential are corroded together" does make some sense however, and, represents a serious condition.

As to the "two cylinders needing some help," that's obviously not a very helpful description from the mechanic. Does this mean, low compression on these two cylinders? What does a leak down test show? As mentioned above, there's some strong possibility some modest driving could bring all the cylinders up to a fine operational condition. Don't drive the car until you have cleaned out the fuel system of the old fuel as fuel that old can gum up the sensitive parts of the system and then you're in for some trouble. Best to drain the tank and as much of the system as you can and refill with fresh gas and a little fuel system cleaner. Good luck!

 

Rob,
I may be interested in buying it as is
I live nearby in Virginia.
Call me at 804 452 1908 and leave a return number, or
email me at [email protected] and put 308GTSI in the header

 

you can always donate the car to your charity that will sell it and take a nice valuable tax deduction (check with your tax preparer) and do a good deed....just think...local man donates classic exotic Ferrari found in barn to benefit local community...our man of the week!

 

Doesn't anyone believe in Marvel Mystery Oil anymore??

Seriously this dealer has quoted absolutley worst case scenario using all new parts for total rebuild sounds to me.......while it's possible they do this for future liabilty to protect themselves, I'm sure your car could be rejuvinated for less.....assuming they havent damaged it already cranking it up without proper prep.......

 

I must chime in here!! Listen to Barkowsky!! He knows what he is talking about. I let my 308 sit for 5 months a few years ago. When I did drive it, the diff was rattling and making a vibration that scared the hell outta me. I thought the diff was toast. I threw some friction modifier in the diff, changed the diff oil with redline synthetic and took the car out and did a bunch of circles, not donuts, just circles to get the fresh fluid into those diff clutchs. Car drives like new now. No doubt. The diff in a 308 is VERY strong and VERY well built. I would suggest you change the diff fluid and try that.

As far as the 2 cylinders not firing right. Use Marvel Mystery oil in the gas, and put a little Mobil 1 motor oil in the cylinder itself. Might smoke a little, but the oil and MMO will free the cylinders up. Go for a drive. I betcha it clears up! Hope it works out for you man.

One more thing, it would be a SIN to break up a complete nice Ferrari. Don't part it out!

 

Sounds like guys on a fishing expedition for some stiff repair bills. "Needed help"? What the F does that mean? Bad compression? No spark? Sheesh, change the distributor rotors, new plug wires, new plugs, new timing belts, run some Techron through it and give it an Italian tune up. (Drive it) If the compression is still bad after some techron to blow out the carbon on the valves, pull the cam covers and check valve clearances. Sitting for a couple years will not destroy the engine. If you are that worried about it, I'll buy it from you for $5K!

Birdman