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84 512 bbi coolant drain

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  1. bl10

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    Quick question about draining coolant on 84 bbi. Looks like the radiator has the only drain petcock. Is that right. Used to 308 which has block petcocks.
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  2. bjunc

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    3. Bleed valve
    4. Drain
    6. Fan switch (sensor)

    When I've done it, gravity handles most of it. A little forced air through the expansion tank can push out much of the remaining coolant, but you'll likely still have some in the heater lines and pipe leading up to the top of the radiator. Not sure how others truly purge out all coolant (eg, if switching to "waterless coolant").


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  3. turbo-joe

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    this is what barry already has written, but he asked about drain plug at the engine block.

    also this drain plug at the radiator I would not touch when old. all corroded and may be will break. better is to loosen a hose and drain the coolant there
     
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  4. Steve Magnusson

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    I hope someone who actually knows 512BBi will respond, but my quick look comparing the SPCs indicates that adding easily accessible coolant drain plugs to the back end of the cylinder heads was something they did (or learned that they needed) on TR, and they don't exist on 512BBi.
     
  5. Newman

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    Two drain plugs in the engine, one on each head, awkward to reach unlike the Testarossa and the drain on the rad at the right front. I've never had a rad drain break and if it did its a 5 min job to replace it.
     
  6. turbo-joe

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    I had 2 times the problem that the drain plug has been corroded at the thread and then the whole thread soldered in the radiator broke out. so then just doing a complete radiator repair with a new net
     
  7. bjunc

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    I don't get the sense my radiator drain is particularly fragile. Didn't know about the drains on the engine. I don't recall seeing anything about them in the owner's manual or workshop manual either. Are they more for engine outs after other bits have been removed?
     
  8. Rifledriver

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    I agree with Newman.In your case the radiator was corroded junk anyway and needed far more than draining. If it had been drained more regularly and in a timely fashion it would not have been in such poor condition. Better to break in the shop than out on the road.
     
  9. Steve Magnusson

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    Would those two 512BBi coolant drain plugs be items 2 here?:

    https://www.ferrariparts.co.uk/diagram/ferrari/512-bbi/001-crankcase

    (Can't see anything on the 512BBi cyl heads that would be a coolant drain plug.)
     
  10. bl10

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    Thanks guys.
    I'm not looking to drain the entire cooling system, just enough so I can replace hoses #16 and #28 with stock appearing black hoses as the PO installed blue silicone. I have it entered in both the La Jolla and FCA Pasadena Concurs and want it as original appearing as possible. I will give the rad petcock a try as the plugs mentioned by Paul, #23 on the cylinder head schematics appear to be difficult at best to access.
    Steve the plug you referenced appears to be even more difficult and I'm not sure its a water plug.
    While I'm at it I may change the radiator thermo switch #52 with a 170 F one. Is there any down side to doing that? I'm not going to change the thermostat only want the fans to come on a little sooner.

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  11. Steve Magnusson

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    Thanks, that #23 is it per the SPC note.
     
  12. bjunc

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    There's not much coolant that high up. You'd only need to drain a little bit from the rad drain to get the level low enough to not make a mess replacing the hoses (I've done that). You might create an air pocket though (also done that).
     
  13. Newman

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    10300740 is the part number for the water drain plugs in the heads.

    If you're changing the coolant then remove the plugs, lots remains in the engine otherwise. If you're just replacing a component or hose then thats different.
     
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  14. Newman

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    You can see the large hex head plug on the head above the axle boot thats seen better days. Testarossa and TR has the same plug but relocated to the rear of both heads where you can actually see them.

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  15. 2dinos

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    Thanks for posting that picture of head drain. That looks like a perfect opp'y to get doused in AF having the drain just above the axle.

    How we love them so!
     
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