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85 308 GTS speaker replacement - door panel

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  1. wowow

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    #1 wowow, Feb 22, 2011
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    I have an 85 308 GTS QV and is looking to replace the door speakers. I like to know if I have to remove the entire door panel or just the lower part of the "carpet" area which includes the speaker mask and bin. If it involves taking out the entire door panel, I will need help in doing that. I have searched the forum but nothing on the QV doors ( there was one on a 79 308 GTB but the door panel looks different as the door panel is one piece rather than having a carpet cover section on the bottom thirds ).

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  2. veloce33

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    If I remember correctly, the door panel is all one piece, except for the arm rest.
     
  3. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    The whole door panel has to come off. It is one piece.

    BTW, that is a 5 1/4 inch speaker
     
  4. Dino246gt

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    Door panel is a simple removal and re-install, I've done it a few times. Do it yourself and make everything fit even better than now. Got power window boosters in here yet?
     
  5. climb

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    I've been waiting for 3 years for a removal thread myself so i can refinish the armrest. Does anyone have step by step pictures like the ones on the 355 forum.?
     
  6. climb

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    Thank you!

    Could never figure out how you'd get the bolt back on after you removed the armrest. Now i see that the bolt is mounted and doesn't come off. Like they say a picture is worth a thousand words..with inflation it's prolly worth two thousand by now.
     
  7. wowow

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    The photo in that thread shows the speaker exposed without having to remove the panel. Does that mean the speaker cover is a piece by itself ?
     
  8. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    Those are two different cars. One is a 78 and the other is an 83-85 model
     
  9. ggjjr

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    It is very easy. Just start removing screws. The arm rest first. If the arm rest hasn't been off in a while it will "peel" off. Then the door screws. Just know that you need to lift/slide the panel upwards after all the screws are out since it has clips that attach it to the top of the door, if I remember correctly. If it doesn't slide up with a little effort, you have missed a screw in the carpet area, somewhere.

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  10. Crallscars

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    The door panel is fairly easy to remove, the drivers door you have to pull out the mirror switch, disconnect the plug and push the wire back thru as you remove the panel.

    What kind of speakers are you putting in, I need to repalce mine too
     
  11. wowow

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    #12 wowow, Feb 23, 2011
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    Guys, Thanks for the info. I will try to do it myself and hopefully won't break anything.

    I have a spare set of 5-1/4MB Quart DKH113 lying around and hope that will fit. I mainly listen to news and radio while stuck in traffic. My car has custom exhaust and its too loud for any decent music anyway.
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  13. Crallscars

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    Looks very nice, very clean look, but I still need a radio, maybe rear speakers on the shelf?
     
  14. wowow

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    wow, nice and clean !
     
  15. sclja

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    Looks like a 328
     
  16. Dino246gt

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    Speaker grill is not a separate piece that can be removed without removing the door panel. In my opinion, there is nothing that can go wrong if you try this yourself. simply unscrew, carefully lift panel up and out. Only power mirror switch needs to be manuevered through first. Once the panel is off, you can polish the painted door surface and detail clean the edges of the leather so much easier then with it all together. Make sure the inside bottom is clear of debris that may lead to door bottom rust. There are drainage holes there for water that enters around the fixed window and the working window, so make sure those are not plugged while you're in there. When putting all the cleaned up stuff back together, you can line the arm rest up perfectly with the dash. I think it takes less time to r&r both interior door panels than it does to r&r all 4 wheels. Or approx the same. It's great to be able to do some super detailing on your own, at your own pace. Let us know how those speakers fit and sound. (No sound system for me, but I understand your reasoning)
     
  17. fiatbrett

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    A quick observation on my 1985 308 QV: I'm doing a little r&r on the door installing the window relays to speed up the windows and replace the deteriorated speakers. Anyway it turns out that my speakers are 6 1/2" and not 5 1/4". I thought they were the latter and bought replacements but too small. I guess different years came with different size door speakers?
     
  18. jim rosenthal

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    Thanks for posting this. We are about to do the same thing- the window winders are not working right, and I thought we would do the speakers at the same time. What did you finally install? I don't know how much room there is for updated speakers, but after 34 years I am sure mine are shot.
     
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    looking for the same information on speakers. Are you for the window boosters?
     
  20. jim rosenthal

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    Yes, we'll clean the old grease out of the winders, and fit the window accelerators, as long as we're in there. And replace the speakers. I can't figure out if the sudio unit in the car (a blaupunkt unit with a separate control head on a stalk) is original. There are also added speakers on that little deck behind the seats which I am certain aren't original. I don't know how much value a modern audio unit is in a 308- the engine may be loud enough that it's pointless..
     
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  21. jim rosenthal

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    Does anyone know what the original radio/audio unit would have been in a 1985 USA QV berlinetta? I am pretty certain I am taking mine out (Blaupunkt mentioned above) and would give it to someone if they were trying to restore their car to original- IF this unit is original. Then again, the noise level in the car may preclude listening to CDs.....LOL
     

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