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'86 Down Draft Countach Available..USA VER

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  1. CarloR

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    #1 CarloR, Oct 4, 2011
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    Hey Guy's we've got a Red w/ tan interior rare down draft USA version, only 13 cars delivered into the USA. This car has an amazing sound it has original factory optioned 4 chamber dual wall tipped sport ANSA exhaust. This car comes with books, tools and extensive service records.. it even comes with the original Lamborghini service gloves. 55,459 km's. $245,000.00

    FYI: **this is not a grey market car!!! but a 100% legitimate USA legal version***

    Bobileff Motorcar Company
    www.bobileff.com or call us at 858-622-1600

    Thanks, Carlo.
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  2. raymondQV

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    #3 raymondQV, Oct 4, 2011
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    Nice car, but for $245k I expect a complete car with a working smog pump.

    BTW it's a MY87 (built in 1986) since it has already the closed engine lid and the upgraded dashboard with side vents.
     
  3. roytoy2003

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    Very nice looking car. IMO, these cars are just doing nothing but going up in their investment quailty.

    As far as a SMOG pump..WHY? Rob's the car of power and perfromance. It was just a stupid DOT/EPA requirment.

    My 1975 LP400 had it "added" as a USA car, along with the stupid rear side markers. It was the FIRST thing to go durning the restoration, the second was the rear side markers..that get's it back to the way it was builtand should be.

    I think this car is worth every penny IMO, if it where mine, the only thing I would do is remove the rear wing, very very easy one day operation. Keep it if the next owner wanted it.
     
  4. ken qv

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    Ya, don't take the wing off and sell it to someone making a kit car.
    What is the VIN number?
     
  5. Countachqv

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    #6 Countachqv, Oct 4, 2011
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    Very good observation! my car is a MY86 (build in 85), as yours I beleive, and does not have the later dash and the closed lid. I still have the US side markers thou :(
    Would be nice to know the excat build date with the VIN so we can see when these changes were enacted.

    also "FYI: **this is not a grey market car!!! but a 100% legitimate USA legal version***"
    What does it matter if it is a "legit 13" or a grey market as long as all the paper work is correct?
    That would be a good question for You Joe S.

    A very nice example of DD. Not many in this shape left in the US
     
  6. CarloR

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    Come on.. really a smog pump is your worries? that's always the first thing to go and be pulled.. just as Roy stated.

    And this car is a 1986 version as they only made them during that year for USA spec.
     
  7. joe sackey

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    Nice to see one that looks like they did when they left the factory.

    In 1986 Joe Nastasi the importer brought in roughly 13 cars and had them certified as "USA cars". I dont think it matters if a QV DD has been brought in post-Nastasi, so far as the paperwork is legitimate and affords it USA legal status. This in fact means that there are more than 13 USA legal QV DDs, but, they are still pretty rare. But its worth noting that Automobili Lamborghini SpA's first USA legal Countach was the fuelie QV of 1986. As far as downdraft QVs are concerned, production numbers from 1985 to 1988 are approx. 610 examples, of which this is one. They are well-desired amongst the faithful because they are considered the most powerful Countach in its original pre-Annivesario guise. Hope this helps..
     
  8. jollygood

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    Not sure if the above is correct.
    I believe approx 50% of them were downdrafts.
     
  9. CarloR

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    Thanks Joe for the input and the clarification!
     
  10. roytoy2003

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    I also like the article, wear Mr. VB was quoted as saying..

    "out of ALL the Countach cars..he would take the LP400 for the history of the company, BUT the 5000S QV DD as the BEST all around car of the entire line...

    Thes cars are just going to be another sad thread in a few years from one OF YOU reading it now, that will say..

    "remeber when I could buy that car for under a quarter mill, now I can get a donor parts car for that..AND then if there is one available"
     
  11. joe sackey

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    I did a little more digging, and it appears that approximately one-third of the 610 QVs built from mid-1986 on were actually fuelie cars, so consider that roughly 400 DD QVs exist and that would be a more accurate number. In the grand scheme of things, they are still rare cars.
     
  12. joe sackey

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    #13 joe sackey, Oct 4, 2011
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    #14 raymondQV, Oct 4, 2011
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    I'm sorry to tell but this is wrong, all carbed QV had the smog pump installed, TAV 16 of the spare parts 1986. Sure most of the owners had it removed because it got stuck sooner or later.

    My observation is when a car is sold for a quite high amount it should be complete and everything working, independent if the new owner wants the smog pump or not it belongs to the car to be original.
     
  14. roytoy2003

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    ARE you sure of this...even the EURO produced cars..or was it just the homogilated cars for other parts of the world..?

    Regardless, just becuase it was on the car "as it was born" does not make it the best. More often then not, once a car elaves the factory, the real world makes chnages to it to operate more effictively as well as a better all around car.

    I WILL however agree that ALL parts (that the car was born with) is nice and appropreate to have at time of sale for a possible future buyer. BUT I dont think it cuases for any concern on price or operation of the car if the "upgrade" was done to enhance the perfromance of the car.
     
  15. CarloR

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    The car comes the original smog pump... it's just not installed.
     
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    There you go, the $6.81 problem solved...all is good in the car world!!
     
  17. CarloR

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    Lol.. yeah problem solved for now ;)
     
  18. Jalpa_Mike

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    #19 Jalpa_Mike, Oct 4, 2011
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    Beautiful Countach Carlo!!!

    By the way, I do think Raymond is correct that it is a 1987. My '86 has a "G" in the VIN (G was the code for 1986). 1987 used "H" in the VIN. Regardless, it is beautiful!!!

    Mike
     
  19. ralfabco

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    That is true, to some degree.


    However, do not forget to take into account, the drop in the value of the $$$.
     
  20. roytoy2003

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    True, but that is of no concern as ALL things that go down WILL come up sooner or later..just the cycle of life..so take advantage of the low cycle of life now..and be happy when the hand of life/time comes back to the midnight position..

    Just like SEX, may not always be great or the best time, but I CANT RE-CALL when it was ever SO BAD that I did not take it when I could LOL
     
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  22. NSXER

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    Correct...but engine bay looks so much better/cleaner without it.

    Brian
     
  23. johnhoughtaling

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    #24 johnhoughtaling, Oct 4, 2011
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    This looks very much like the car that appeared in the iconic Car and Driver magazine of the period in 1985. It would be curious to determine if it's the same car. Car and Driver said that chevy bought it to test it against the new corvette.

    In any case, I have an identical DD. It is confirmed as the Alpine DD, and Gary Bobileff did a complete 100 point restoration on it. It's the last possession I will ever part with if everything goes south. To me, maybe bc of my age, it's the definitive model. The fastest and best. And when I went looking for a Countach, only a DD would do. I had a heart attack when I found out how rare they were, and it was a long long road to find one. And when I did the only choice was to restore it, which is insanely expensive. These are the next cars to soar in value. They will soon be all bought up and sorted, and or restored properly.

    For many the anniversary has very controversial styling and not the original look. And most DD imported into Canada had big side skirts and bumpers which completely altered the original look. This is the best performing original look contact, and for that reason, for many it's the most desired.

    In this form, it's amazing. And I believe after the original and low body these are close in line in value. In time, a million dollar car. To few, too many posters produced for those in their early 40s now. When those boys hit 55, and have kids out of college and want those dream car there's only one model. And only 400 worldwide to chose from of the DD and not many others with this look.

    Good investment boys. Have more than the asking price in mine that Bobileff restored. Never sell mine for 250k boys. Mark my words, 5-10 years it's a million bucks
     
  24. johnhoughtaling

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    I can say that a well running DD with it's 455 hp in tune is an explosively fast car. Seriously fast. I drive a 458 everyday, but when i get in my DD it still astonishes me how fast this car is.
     

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