'91 TR on Copart...water/flood damage...likely Sandy victim

Poor thing had never been driven, and now it is all over

Pete

 

Ugh - Not another one...

 

Hmmm, do you think that having two flooded TRs would cause twice as much headache? Or after having to work on a single flooded TR the second one would be piece of cake?

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/boxers-tr-m/396632-what-i-thinking.html

 

I'm half tempted to go take a look at this. Repair cost is stated as $66k, wonder if the motor is locked. Or how they came to this number. Interior looks like it's dry.

Jim

 

Go ahead LINAS this one is only 5000 miles. Keep the red for your spare parts.

 

You'll save on shipping if they can put two TR's in one container...

 

My guess is they got that number from the insurance write off. It looks like it was in pristine condition. Im willing to bet that the front spoiler was dinged by the tow truck driver. The interior appears to be spotless but the engine bay looks to be covered by silt or dirty rain/debris that got in via the engine cover vents. So sad.

Dang, thats sad.

Christian

 

I would agree - you have to wonder how "bad" these things really are. If valued at $x (which could be a low-ball value), and the cost to repair is greater than $x (which is often the case with Ferraris, or any car that's not properly valued for insurance purposes), then the insurer will just "total" it.

Have to believe that many Ferraris were well within repair, but the insurer said "no way". It was cheaper for them to total it. This looks like that type of case (of course based on pics only).

 

Surely the thing to do if you bought a sea water damaged car would be to immediately immerse in fresh water and repeat this many times. You have to get rid of that damaging salt.

Then go through the electrical, mechanical and trim issues. If you don't clean things properly until stripped, that means salt has had longer to do more damage.
Pete

 

Is there anybody local that could stop by and see if the thing cranks over? Likely could be water locked, that would mean salt water in motor...car would then be junk IMO

 

Having dealt with flood cars in the past, I'm more than sure that auction lot personnel would never allow anyone to play with the engine or any electronics. Most you can get is visual inspection. The car is sold as is where is, meaning that it is not being touched after arriving to auction lot.

Also it would not be smart just to jump in and crank the engine. There is a rather strict set of rules, what you need to do with the engine (pulling the plugs, inspecting/drying cylinders, turning the engine over, draining/changing oil, moving back and forth in gear, checking/cleaning electronics, etc etc) before attempting to crank the engine. It's almost a week's work to get things right, talking from personal experience.

 

It all depends on the sale price. I'd buy it if it was cheap enough. Cars have survived worse things.

Pete

 

and who can guarantee that not someone from the transportation company tries to start the engine and then will damage the engine to a total collapse???

something similar happened to me once and so all cars I bought in the states I found my myself, brought them to the shipping company, put them into the container with the customs check and then put a lock on this container. and so I got this container directly to the nearest port to me just about 6 km away. there I unlocked my lock with the german customs and I have been sure nobody was doing anything on those cars.

 

Total collapse?. What is the worst that can happen? A rod or two gedt bent, a few valves get bent ... easily fixable. The condition of the engine would be the lowest priority for me ... I'd be worried above salt water damage to electrics and chassis, body and trim.

Again it all comes down to sale price.
Pete

 

I might go take a look at this car next week as the lot is only about 20 miles from work. If anyone is interested let me know.

Jim

 

JIMANGLE.... please shoot me an email on what you see. I may be interested...thank you.

 

It is already bid to 15K and it needs to meet the minimum bid the insurance company wants.

This car does not look like it got very wet.

I have seen cars get totaled for flood damage with less than a 30 second walk around and all that got wet was the floor, I mean the carpet was all that got wet.

I do not thin Copart lots let you on to "inspect" you also must be a licensed dealer in order to purchase the cars. Or pay a broker to do it.

 

What's the wager on what this will sell for?

 

Too much.

If a Ferrari mechanic doesn't want cars like these, imagine why

 

I'm not 100% sure but I think here in Canada you can't even get a US flooded car back on the road legaly. The've had too many trouble in the past. But would have to verify that!

 

Youre right,


''As of April 1, 2008, all vehicle entering Canada with a brand of salvage/flood are considered as non-repairable by all licensing jurisdictions in Canada.

This means that you can import a flood damaged vehicle into Canada but you cannot have the vehicle licensed in any jurisdiction in Canada.

Most Canadian jurisdictions have not allowed licensing of flood damaged vehicles since major hurricane events took place in the United States in early 2006.

Registrar of Imported Vehicles - Help/FAQs

 

this is a very strange law I must say and I can not understand this.

if all has been done 100 % ok why not license this car again? under license I understand registering for official driving on the road. hope I´m right???

here we can built 1 car out of for example 2,3 or 4 damaged cars and can register this then without big problems.

 

I support the law, it's there for a reason, the car might be fine for a while but law suits always come after.

Salvage / flood cars are bad news!

 

Done right it can and will be a very good car.

The law is there for the scamers who do nothing to the car except clean what you can see and resell it as never having any damage and that is fraud.

Plenty of crooks in the world looking to steal your cash.

But the salvage car business is a good business to be in.

A flood car has many variables the big ones in my opinion is how deep it was in water and how long has it been.


The best part about a flood car is the major components can be drained and flushed and if done very soon will have no signs of corrosion. we do it all the time in aircraft parts if they show that water got inside of them via oil samples.

If it is let to sit for months then it will need to come apart.

But to each his own if you don't want a flood car or even a car given a slavage title, and theft recoveries get salvage titles its all good.

And do not trust carfax its a good tool but the event must be reported.

Even though these are given flood titles its one reason why some of us find these cars on the insurance auction websites and bring them to the communities attention. So you know about them.