911 Turbo S to 599?

Go for it - the 599 is an all-time great, IMHO one of the best Ferrari ever made.
As a 2007, does the one you're looking at have CCM brakes ? normally CCM brakes are not so much better than steel brakes, but on the 599 unfortunately the OEM steel discs (discontinued for MY 2008) were smaller than the CCM discs - which makes most of the difference.
My experience is that the 599 is relatively reliable, the highest cost is in consumable if the car is tracked, but for road use it's reasonable.

 

I would make this trade in a heartbeat! I put 40,000 miles on my 599 and loved every mile. It is an iconic Ferrari. Only normal wear issues plus one oil line.
Malcolm

 

I think you need to do it. Much better than spending the rest of your life wondering whether you should have taken the chance to get into a Ferrari. It wont be as fast as your 911 tubby, and will give you more hassle from the attention you get from bystanders when compared with the pork, but as a "fun" car, I think it has more to offer.

As stated above, they're generally tough machines, but they are more exotic in their construction. Where this will manifest in higher running costs in stuff like the solid rose joints in the wishbones, which you will eat through 10x faster than regular rubber bushes that are in every other car. But then you get to drive a car with solid suspension joints... and how often do you get to do that?

 

I've owned both a 2007 GTB (late 2006 construction) and a 2011 HGTE (which I still currently own with 27K+ miles).

No question I'd switch to the Ferrari 599 (or an F12 if you prefer the double clutch tranny which the 991 Turbo S has) but only to the later 2010-2011 US 599 models with the factory HGTE option. They are superior in standard equipment (CF upper/lower dash/cabin, Recaro CF race seats, upgraded suspension and tranny TCU), options and value. Estimates range that only about 200 HGTE factory-optioned models were produced for the 599 model's final two years.

BTW, I'm not certain if you know that the 599's engine is a detuned version of the same engine used in the exotic Ferrari Enzo.

I used to own a 931S Turbo back in the early 80's but got tired of the straight-line speed capability with compromised handling and shoddy turbo reliability, although the 991 Turbo S model you own is an amazing car on its own. On the road though (at least in swanky Los Angeles areas), you'd probably run into dozens or 911 types before you'd see one 599 or an F12 which are considered as classic N/A V12 cars and relatively much rarer.

 

Completely different cars in a good way. Just don’t expect Porsche build quality in a Ferrari.

Buying a Ferrari is an irrational, maybe irresponsible, act. Why super rational people buy Ferraris cannot be explained. But when you get behind the wheel, you’ll understand.

Engineers buy Porsches.

Poets buy Ferraris.

You owe it to yourself to go the Ferrari Way once in your life.

Enjoy.


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The Porsche Turbo is a fantastic car. No doubt about it. A 12-cylinder Ferrari is a completely different kettle of fish. It's a GT car, not a racer. So It's going to feel different. Powerful and road hugging in a very different way than a rear-engine Porsche. I have a 612, and boy does it have power. Very high performance, but pretty lux also. Also, I have to say that the front-engine Ferrari's are constantly changing their appearance, and present exciting lines, not having the same general appearance as the 911's down through the years. I like to sit on my front porch and just admire my car in the driveway. I think you owe it to yourself to have the classic Ferrari 12-cylinder front-engine experience. Life is about having new adventures. New DIFFERENT adventures.
I should add that in my seven years of owning a 612, I haven't spent much on maintenance or repairs or parts. It depends on how you drive. If you are going to go to track events, you will have to do an engine-out service every 3 years, plus brake and clutch replacements. But if you drive casually as I do, you can go 8 or ten years without the dreaded belt replacement. I went 10 years between belt replacements in my Testarossa, I drive 2500 or 3000 miles yearly.

 

I would also do it in a heartbeat. Don’t expect all of the modern gadgets and feel of a very recent car. Expect something different EVERY time you get behind the wheel which is a feeling you would never get in any modern Porsche (or any other marque). You will be in love throughout your ownership. As Bob said, these things are as beautiful at a standstill as they are when driven with passion. I personally equate the 599 and 612 to the golden age of 911s i.e. the 993 series. Let us know how you get on and do please share the spec and colour combination. As Simon Kidston says, “Colours make cars”! Looking forward to welcoming you to the club.

 

I own a 2021 Porsche 911 turbo S cab and while it is an awesome car it’s just another 911. Driving a Ferrari is an event a special event. I would do this deal in a heartbeat. I always wanted a Ferrari and now I’m on my 3rd one. Couldn’t be happier!

 

Showing up in a Ferrari, especially a Enzo based V12 gets you a lot of compliments. I have a very good friend here that has a 911 Turbo S. Both our cars are dark blue and both get lots of attention when we go somewhere to meet parking side by side. The difference is unless the gawkers are knowledgeable Porsche followers, they mistake the 911 for just another Porsche. The Ferrari is a horse of a different bread.
My 599 is my third prancing horse and I have no regrets. They are not getting any less expensive too. Pick a good color and go for it.

 

Very nice. Hope it works out for you.

 

I never drove a GT3. But if you have the chance to own a 599, do it! Very nice car (post #13).

 

Looks very nice - black is hard to maintain looking clean, but it's worth the effort
When you get the car, you can register it on the Ferrari web site and normally after a few days you'll see all the original options of the car (unlike a window sticker, it will not give you a price though).

 

This is obviously a Ferrari fan club, but I've had a Turbo S before and I have a 599 that I bought new and have put 30,000 miles on myself. The Turbo S is an engineering marvel but it lacks a bit of soul. The 599 is a great car and the chief mechanic at the Ferrari dealer has informed me (knock on wood) that they are incredibly well built with few issues over the years. I had my shocks done once but other than that, fluid changes and tires. Life is just too short, enjoy the Ferrari experience while you can, stretch her legs often and change the tires every four years regardless of tread-life remaining.

 

Joe,

If you can determine which Ferrari dealer originally sold this 599, provide them with the 599's VIN and resale documents. They should have a copy of the original sticker which may be reproducible in its original color as a courtesy to a new owner. Check the service books located in the trunk. Usually, the original Ferrari dealer stamps the book with their dealership nomenclature and address.

Likewise if the person you're buying it from is the original owner, he should've have kept meticulous ownership and service records of the car (given how he's meticulously maintained this baby) and upon its resale should be transferred to you for historic safekeeping and posterity.

Like the ubiquitous Patek Phillipe wristwatch advertisement, you "never" really own a Ferrari; you're just a "temporary caretaker" for it until it passes to another owner (hopefully your son or heirs).

Enjoy it to the hilt!

 

Once you buy one, you become an official member of the Ferrari Pusherman Club. One drive and you're hooked.

 

You will not regret purchasing a 599. Comfortable, fast, reliable and she is a looker. Add the fabspeed or fabio's straight pipes and you have an aural orchestra that few cars can match.

 

Joe- Way to go. If this is your first V12, you are in for a treat. The 599 engine has about the same torque as a 7 liter Z06 and way more hp.

 

Hello, I have owned a 599 gtb for about 3 years, I must say that every time I drive this car, I get the pleasure that I have never gotten from any other car before. I also had Porsche 911 which is 991.1 generation. For me 599 gtb one of the best modern Ferrari as well. Most logical people may not recommend going from a newer generation Porsche to the 599,
but for true car enthusiasts, a v12 Ferrari is more special and high-end than any other Porsche or any car.
What's more, as mentioned before, there is the legendary Enzo Ferrari engine with a slightly detuned version on 599 GTB and it makes more special that.
In my own experience, I haven't encountered any serious issues other than a few minor age-related charges.
Also, you shouldn't expect the handling of this car to be like new generation cars.
It may be good for you to be aware of just having your remaining clutch measured before you buy it, other than that, you have already done an inspection and said that the vehicle is in a healthy condition.
If all the conditions are right, I would definitely recommend selling your Porsche and owning a v12 Ferrari and you should feel the Bizzarini soul and V12 concert !!
Have a nice day.