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  1. dc348

    dc348 Formula Junior

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    #1 dc348, May 27, 2006
    Hello all, can someone please help me out here. I am just about to buy a RHD 93 348 Spyder. I've had a look on the VIN decoder on http://www.ferrariclub.com/faq/vin.html. On this car's plaque on the steering column, it reads 348 tb and the VIN-ZFF!!!35XXXXXXX. Now my question is should it say 348tb or 348 Spyder? and on the VIN, this idicates its a tb not a Spyder.

    Is this normal? Could the VIN decoder be incorrect? Could this car been converted from tb to Spyder? Strange!!!

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. ashsimmonds

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    #2 ashsimmonds, May 27, 2006
    might be an ex billy idol car.
     
  3. dc348

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    #3 dc348, May 27, 2006
    G'day ashsimmonds from sadalaide. Come'on mate, help us out here! it may be Billys old car. But i need some help here.

    dc x-melb. go hawks
     
  4. GCalo

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    #4 GCalo, May 27, 2006
    try www.red-headed.com

    There is an area where he has decoded the VIN's and may this will help.
     
  5. Miltonian

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    #5 Miltonian, May 27, 2006
    The VIN you showed in your post has 15 apparent characters, it should have 17. The numbers "35", which decode to a 348tb, are the 7th and 8th characters in the VIN you showed, while the model code is given by the 6th and 7th digits. The model code for a Spyder is "43", which is probably correct for the 6th and 7th digits in your VIN. The 8th digit shouldn't be a "5" though, it should be a letter for the destination market.

    I think the VIN number you posted is incorrect or scrambled in some way.
     
  6. enzo360

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    #6 enzo360, May 27, 2006
    Hi,
    as Jeff said: the 35 (digit 6 and 7)in the VIN is the 348 Tb code, a 43 is the code for a 348 spider.
    Now a conversion from 348 Tb to 348 Spider? In my opinion it's highly unlikely: I've read about conversions from 348 Ts to 355 GTS, merely in a cosmetic way, a conversion into a competition model, but from Tb to spider, don't think so. I'm not saying absolutely no, but never heard of before.
    Would you mind sharing the car's VIN, maybe some people here can shed a light on it.
    Jurgen
     
  7. Lagerlout

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    #7 Lagerlout, May 27, 2006
    I think what you're saying is that the plaque actually says "348 Tb" - correct?

    So does mine on my GTC and so do other 348's (RHD) I've seen - I'm talking about GTS and GTB. I came to the conclusion that they couldn't be bothered changing the script on that particular plate.

    If the chassis number underneath the script isn't valid that is a different issue altogether. The VIN on my steering column plaque is correct for a GTC and factory verified/documents etc and the same number is all over the car so hence my conclusion above.

    Best thing to do is to ring a Ferrari dealer, ask to speak to service and ask for them to confirm that the chassis no. you supply is for a 348 Spider. They don't have to give out any other information. If you get lucky you could ask if the car has had any major parts/repairs outside of it's service history. Thats what I did before I bought mine.

    HTH
     
  8. dc348

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    #8 dc348, May 29, 2006
    Thanks all, as it turned out, the plaque on the steering column has been changed for some reason. The VIN on the build plate, on the body and me local dealer all matched up. So, all looks good!!!
     
  9. Miltonian

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    #9 Miltonian, May 29, 2006
    If the numbers on the steering column cover plate don't match the other numbers on the car, they probably are not going to match the numbers on the title for the car.

    "All looks good." No, it doesn't.
     
  10. dc348

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    #10 dc348, May 30, 2006
    G'day all and thanks for the help so far in this journey. OK, I saw the car again today and this is what I found out...

    The VIN is ZFFUA35C000012345 is on the Steering column and Build plate on the A pillar.

    The VIN ZFFUA43C000012345 is on the Chassis rail in the engine bay and on the Transport depatments title.

    I have spoken with my local Ferrari dealer and they have informed me that the last 6 digits is the number they check "012345" as it is the production sequence no. and they comfirmed that it is indeed a 348 Spyder.

    The only explaination they gave me was the factory has made a mistake.
     
  11. Lagerlout

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    #11 Lagerlout, May 31, 2006
    Hmmm.. if you haven't bought it already, might be worth looking around. That is very strange. It could have happened of course, but it's a nagging doubt I wouldn't want in my head..
     
  12. JPF

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    #12 JPF, May 31, 2006
    Does the fact that it is a '93 bother anyone? I thought the Spider was produced starting in '94.
     
  13. Organiser

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    #13 Organiser, May 31, 2006
    Hi,

    Production of the Spider started in 93, mine left the factory in Dec 1993.

    Regards,
    Phil.
     
  14. JPF

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    #14 JPF, Jun 1, 2006
    Interesting. Good to know, thanks.
     
  15. mdraeger

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    #15 mdraeger, Jun 1, 2006
    348 spider chasis nos. are between 94504-99947

    tb 81617-96679

    ts 85651-96964

    speciale 92812-95820

    GTB 96655-99697

    GTS 96824-99197

    competizione 96064-99143

    mike D.
     

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