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93 ss 348 no.1 cylinder no spark

Discussion in '348/355' started by db4, May 1, 2011.

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  1. db4

    db4 Karting

    Oct 24, 2009
    94
    ny
    can one out put of coil pack go bad?
     
  2. minirally

    minirally Rookie

    Apr 29, 2011
    29
    certainly! inside the coil pack,it is invidual circuitry,for each cylinder.
     
  3. tcannon

    tcannon Formula 3

    Feb 18, 2009
    1,763
    Norman, OK
    Full Name:
    Todd Cannon
    Double check the spark plug wire first.
     
  4. Tom_C

    Tom_C Karting

    Feb 20, 2008
    233
    Raleigh area, NC
    Full Name:
    Tom C
    #4 Tom_C, May 2, 2011
    Last edited: May 2, 2011
    Yup. I had the no 7 output on my coil go bad. Threw some wierd codes and was intermittent enough that several techs couldn't find it.

    I have a cheap tester, can't remember exactly what it is, that will check spark at the plug end, but I was also able to use it at the coil.
     
  5. db4

    db4 Karting

    Oct 24, 2009
    94
    ny
    ok so i swap coil pak left to right ,and all 8 firing but doesn't sound right . swap coils back and no. 1 cyl dead ??
     
  6. minirally

    minirally Rookie

    Apr 29, 2011
    29
    if i understand, you swap coil and all ok? when you put them back, still cylinder one missing?
     
  7. minirally

    minirally Rookie

    Apr 29, 2011
    29
    first, you check if you have fire with a spark tester( cheap and fast!), if no spark, you can swap coil from each bank of cylinder. if you still have no-spark on cylinder 1, you have to check the wire output from the computer, to know if it drive the ground to the coil pack.

    if,when you change the coil,the problem of no-spark goes to the other bank of cylinder, for sure,the coil pack is bad.
     
  8. db4

    db4 Karting

    Oct 24, 2009
    94
    ny
    anyone know what the function of the power module is ?
     
  9. Andretti Molletti

    Andretti Molletti Formula Junior

    Sep 19, 2010
    345
    Netherlands
    Full Name:
    Dré
    The powermodule has a dwell function.
    That means it regulates the current through the coil. The resistance of the coil is less than 1 Ohm so the current would get 12 Amps or more. Thats too high so the module keeps the current under control. The module therefore measaures the raise of current and eeeuh.. keeps or stops at say 4-6 amps... then the coil is satureted and its ready to fire at command of the ECU.

    Lot of european cars have these modules and the specific module of the 348 is also in the Alfa 155 I thought. But all of the modules monitor the current and current rise time and so monitor the resistance of the coil!!
    If the combination of coil and module is ok it fires... that means that a 0,9 Ohm coil can fire with module "a" but sometimes the resistance is to low for module "b" which doesnt fire... So measure the PRIMARY resistance of all your coils and compare them with each other. There may not be a bigger difference then 0,1 Ohm. The absolute value is less important due to inaccuraccy of your multimeter

    I guess the primary resistance of coil of 1 (and 4?) is lower then 8 (and 5?)

    I hope its clear with my bad english
     
  10. db4

    db4 Karting

    Oct 24, 2009
    94
    ny
    Turns out i had a bad coil pack on the rt side , no. 1 output on the coil pack was bad replaced it with a new land rover coil and the sweet music came back . thanks all
     

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