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930 Turbo Carrera

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  1. ignominus

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  2. flumpy

    flumpy Formula Junior

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    This looks interesting, could be a really nice car at sensible money! Anyone know more?
     
  3. simon930Berlin

    simon930Berlin Karting

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    turbo carrera or carrera turbo is the first thing a little off, even still the estimate seems very low
     
  4. thomasandersen

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    I know this has been discussed before, but what is the EURO turbo premium? Lets say same conditon 76 EURO VS 76 US 93067 / 93068 VIN

    Personally I would always prefer a EURO vin, but it seams like the concept has merged with the 930 popularity.
     
  5. pu911

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    Europeans tend to favor ROW VIN's in the US we tend to favor US VIN's. That car would be a steal at those estimates unless there is a bunch of issues- I'd expect a 1 in front of the numbers.
    Phil
     
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  6. idart

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    Has been discussed at nauseam on Pelican but the bottom line is that it depends. Factors such as non-sunroof, non-A/C, sport seats, color, interior fitment, originality, condition, other options, etc. all drive the market for RoW or U.S. For 3-liter Turbos, if condition and options were the same, the market value should be similar but even then…it depends. Most U.S. Turbo Carreras have had their Rube Goldberg thermal reactors removed and the H.P. rating should be similar between U.S. and RoW cars. Some Europeans dislike the large U.S. rear bumper pads and sugar scoop & headlights vs. H-4’s, etc. The recent market has shown that nice RoW 3-liter Turbos in the U.S. will sell for top dollar as evidenced in several Symbolic RoW 1976 Turbos imported from Japan.
     
  7. voitureltd935

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  8. idart

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    #4209 idart, Jul 4, 2015
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    Seldom seen image of U.S. 1976 Turbo Carrera #0011 identified by the tell-tale RoW bumper reflectors and VDL 528 Michigan plates. This photo is from the 930/934/935 section from Richard Langworth’s book, “Porsche a Tradition of Greatness”, 1983. The intro passage reflect the author’s foresight on the future collectability of the 930 Turbo…

    "The Type 930 Turbo stands a fair chance to become the most sought-after sports car of the late 1970s. Right now, the market is soft. Clean specimens sell for about what they cost new - $26,000 in the beginning – while others, concours examples and low-mileage originals, bring twice that. However, the price these Porsches will command a quarter century from now is something one can only guess at. Collectors might keep in mind that Duesenbergs once sold for as little as $1500 just after World War II, yet today’s Turbos, at $30,000 or so, represent just as much relative appreciation potential as the Duesie did back then.

    The reason isn’t hard to find: the Turbo easily ranks among the great cars of all time. It’s a car very much in the tradition of the Mercer Raceabout, the Bugatti Type 35, the Alfa Romeo 8C 2900B, the Mercedes-Benz 300SL, Gullwing, and the Ferrari Daytona. It is a jewel of engineering and manufacturing, a machine so superior to just about every other sports car of its time that little else could be fairly –or logically- compared to it."
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  9. hyenahf

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    #4210 hyenahf, Jul 4, 2015
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    I spoke to the owner today. Yes it's the GR car. He is looking for a black one also so if anyone knows of one...
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  10. rdwinelover

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    You have a message on a black on black 1976 I was offered direct from a seller at $200,000 and passed on recently. It's a very early car
     
  11. rdwinelover

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    In thought about early vs late numbered cars, would logic suggest that a 1976 930 produced in 1975 see a price premium? This logic comes from 1965 911's produced in 1964. I am curious if that type of compulsive collectibility might express itself someday in the market place.

    On another note, when 1965 911's are ticking at 300k, 1967's at 300k and 1972 & 1973 911S at $250-300k, these early 930's seem like a freakin steal. ****, some T's are pricing at 100K and selling.

    In full disclosure, I own 4 of these early cars and am bullish as hell. I think they are so massively undervalued and my wallets up. I wouldn't consider selling any of them for a mound of cash. My gut says In 10 years, on their 50th birthday, people will shake their heads in awe of these grand machines. I only can hope for a pullback so as to buy 4 more and have a rainbow of Turbos to line my winery space.
     
  12. WPOZZZ

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    In the past 3 years, I spent almost $1M acquiring more real estate. I lucked out in finding my 77, but maybe the real estate money would have been better spent on more 930s. I know it would have been more fun!
     
  13. dgwx

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    Did you ever get any kind of response to this? My 77 has what sounds like this exact same problem and I have been puzzling about a fix for some time. It looks to me like the cardboard part on mine has separated and broken. It doesn't look like an easy fix to me.
     
  14. idart

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  15. cal007

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    Not yet. Same problem here.


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  16. F1wannabe1

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    did he just acquire another 75? I know of the red RHD just recently acquired.
     
  17. idart

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  18. Shady Speedway

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    If only they knew then what we know now.

    Though they might have started out with an unloved $20,000 car?

    With the lack of these cars in Australia and the lack of knowledge here on them. You don't have to go far to find people that will tell you the 3.3Lt cars are "the one to get".

    The "ADR" (Australian Dress Rules) plate next to the VIN number is an interesting one here in Australia.

    My car 9306700091 never had one of these, though technically it should have had one.

    The plates where introduced here in Australia around the early 70's. In the early days it was the dealers responsibility to fit them on imported cars. For a number of reasons this was sometimes missed. It is not uncommon for the P cars from that era to be missing these plates.

    On the plate topic. Can anybody tell me if the other "Porsche AG" VIN plate looks factory correct?
     
  19. idart

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    #4221 idart, Jul 6, 2015
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    Interesting...did not know about ADR.

    The large aluminum data plate looks correct but the chassis # plate looks narrow in width unless this was standard for RHD. There was a RoW '77 for sale a few years ago that also had the narrow chassis # plate but I don't recall if it was RHD.
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  21. pu911

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    Interesting that the 76 has a 74 RSR tail. Love the oak green metallic on the turbo's
    Phil
     
  22. hyenahf

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    thank you... i will forward him the info the next time i speak to him
     
  23. Giuliakeka

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    I wonder why they change the power antenna... and about the engine modifications.
    Any info ?
     

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