I would have to disagree with that.. I have seen several they were quite off.. including mine. They seem to get most of the particulars correct... but some details are either missing, or way-off as stated. Just my experience.
I'm not sure how many have seen this car close-up.. but it had a number of issues present with regard overall condition and past repairs. Let's say that McQueen and ??? obviously used the car as intended.
I can get factory Kardexes for 200 dollar each. They're spot on but expensive and not as informative as a 'real' Kardex. This is what you get... 930 770 0066 1977 911 Turbo Coupe Engine 6770082 transmission 770132 Color Emerald Green Metallic/Y9 Color Dark Green Leather/91 Extras M 422 M 469 Pirelli Tires.
Most of the mods were post-McQueen since he passed away in 1980. The 16-inch Fuchs were 1986+. Not bashing the car but not "McQueen" mods. I can't imagine Steve McQueen fitting RoW bumper reflectors after putting in the tailight kill switch???
Very nice find and the green interiors are both interesting and rare. I had previously only seen them in the 356 cars.. but understand a few early 911s were ordered with them (though I have never seen this) and some 930s. Most of the green 930s I've seen were delivered with cork interior. I'm currently working on a light refresh on an Ice Green 77 (#314) that has the green interior from the factory... in very good condition I might add.
So, as you have illustrated, we can conclude that there is nothing wrong with changing one's opinion! FWIW Minerva Blue is the color of the 3.0 abandoned on the original owner's driveway.
Rich, thanks for the information about the dash. Always curious what lies beneath. Not to belabour it (too late), but what a great conversation about values. Has me second guessing my assumptions, so I think I shall see how the market goes before making any decisions about my car. In the meantime, I'll continue to look for the last pieces to mount my 930 rear wiper.
Sure as long as we know that it's ones personal opinion, otherwise one might be accused of changing ones opinion depending on the cars he has for sale... Erik
Here's one for the guy that faces a boring wintertime... 1976 Porsche 911 Turbo Image Unavailable, Please Login
Was posted before, but it remains my favorite Porsche 930 picture. Erik Image Unavailable, Please Login
I know, you're buying. I'm just intrigued by the fact that a man with a reputation like yours was convinced six months ago that the 75, 76 and 77 Turbo's were at parity. Comparing a '75 with later years is like saying that a 1964 Porsche 911 is at parity with a '66. Even six months ago the 75 was the first 3.0 Turbo, built in limited quantities, with a different engine code, dash and - you know all the differences. This car is the ultimate 3.0 Turbo and it also was six months ago. I'm not saying this for my own good because I don't own one, but there's no way around it and the market also indicated this at the time and does so more and more. Erik
Or if he sold a car too early and too cheap, has a chip on his shoulder about the new valuations and wants back in for himself.
If that were true, given what's available http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/144156894-post4481.html & http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/144160195-post4517.html and the current market trajectory, I wouldn't worry too much.
The Hagerty Price Guide was just published for August 2015: 1976 930 Turbo (Hagerty Price Guide) 1977 930 Turbo (Hagerty Price Guide) Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Yes, I saw the report. It seems the ramp up in value has slowed to about 10%-20% for the #1 cars. I have a question about Ice Green. All the cars I've seen in this color are very similar to Magnus' car http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/144141769-post4419.html. However, Rich posted one of a very different shade. http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/144141359-post4418.html Is it due to the lighting or camera exposure? Or are the others faded?
Sheesh, I'm glad I don't make a living buying or selling cars, I read here and decide I've over-estimated the value of my 930, then Hagerty comes along with a number in line with my original thinking.
Based on my observations of selling a 3+ 79 and currently trying to sell 3+ 77 the numbers look too high for lower grades and too low for higher grades. The rate of increases has slowed - the slope of line has decreased. Phil
Ditto. Colors are also high in my 930 stable as when I found them over the last 2 decades. In particular some colors available from the early years, which are color to sample #867 Rennrot, #173 light yellow, and other rare colors, Albert blue, Mocha black, light blue metallic ( T30), Ice Green metallic, speed yellow and even silver but with pinstriped cloth interior. I had been an 930 dealer over that time so it was a good opportunity to sell around the rare ones I had found.
