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  1. idart

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    #4801 idart, Sep 21, 2015
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    Norm - great photos of your dash pad. It looks like a top leather piece is attached to a thin metal sheet and then attached to the top of the pad. It's interesting that your dash pad has the same gap as '75 #0242s.
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  2. idart

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    Thanks - as I recall, the same decals were on U.S. Turbo Carreras as well.
     
  3. 375+

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    Mind the gap.
     
  4. idart

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    Porsche was probably thankful they only had to fit leather on a few hundred speaker dash pads. The speaker grill made it more difficult (i.e., gaps) and of course the problem went away for the 1976 model year.
     
  5. cebeturbo77

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    #4805 cebeturbo77, Sep 21, 2015
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    I am in the process of re-assembly the engine of my 1977 (one of the last ROW).

    Comparing pictures with the engine of a 1975 that was restored by a friend, I just noticed some small differences.

    Above the engine block from 1975, below the one from 1977; both car are matching numbers.

    See above the first cylinder on the left?
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  6. Jebus005

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    same with my 1975
     
  7. rdwinelover

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    #4807 rdwinelover, Sep 21, 2015
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    https://www.pca.org/classified-ad/310309

    1976 Porsche Turbo Row Vin #9306700552 for sale on PCA (Porsche Club of America) website. $217,500

    Ad says:

    Runs excellent, good condition,kept in stock condition, Sunday driver, original owner had European delivery, no winters, no accidents, black full leather interior, power sunroof, rear fog light, headlamp washers, new tires, all maintenance current, PCA owner, located in Los Angeles, VIN#9306700552 earlier VIN# than Steve McQueen's, great investment, still going up!
    Mileage: 90,000 miles
    Exterior Color: Silver
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  8. pquadrat

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    #4808 pquadrat, Sep 21, 2015
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    Which one is the '75? What casting number does Your '77 block have? 930 101 103 0R or 4R ?

    And on the engine of the larger picture, the head studs are not the required dilavar ones?
     
  9. onboost

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    Also, I think what many forget or don't realize is that many of these added items were provided by the dealer post sale and thus of course will not be part of the CoA. Remember, during the 70's and 80's, many of these parts were available over the counter through the parts dept at the dealer.

    in essence, if you wanted the Minerva blue 930 in the showroom, but really wanted the Turbo stripe.. they would order and install a stripe for you.. or sport seats, right side mirror, wider wheels and so-on.

    This was also practice with the long hood cars as Porsche even offered race parts through their "Sports Purpose" catalog. I think that catalog was still in use through 76 or so.
     
  10. iii56

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    Hi Norm, sent you a PM. Cheers
     
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  12. Giuliakeka

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    You find it ! top !. Very interesting.
     
  13. Shady Speedway

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    If sports seats were fitted in the factory. Would the COA reflect this?
     
  14. onboost

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    Yes, the CoA should reflect this. However, many CoA's have been known to be incomplete and/or incorrect, while others have been spot on. So its a toss-up. I have heard that they are working to remedy this as best possible
     
  15. mrar

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    They are included option on my ownership certificate.
     
  16. mrar

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    Nice to see a 75 still in Australia, not many residing here now days.
     
  17. pu911

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    My turbo COA's have all been correct- I've only owned one that has factory installed sports seats - that was listed correctly on COA.
    Phil
     
  18. cebeturbo77

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    The engine from 1975 is the larger picture and it was rebuilt by a friend (not by myself). He allegedly used stronger head studs from a later Mezger engine.

    On my car my mechanic (official Porsche) tells me he installing head studs from 993, as the original for the 930 are no longer supplied by Porsche.

    The smaller picture is from my 1977. Built date on the engine parts (heads) are from 5 (May) to 11 (November)/76.
    The car is chassis 550.
    Engine number: 930/52 6770512

    As for the block's casting number, I have to go and check.
    Where is this number located?
    Is there any difference between type 0R and type 4R?
    Please, educate me on the difference.

    Thanks,
    Cesare
     
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    So how many of us in the 930 forum are going to Rennsport this weekend?

    Leaving from Europe directly tomorrow, arriving LAX wedensday evening, driving straight up to Rennsport.
     
  21. jgcferrari

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    I will be there arriving on Friday.
     
  22. pquadrat

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    #4822 pquadrat, Sep 22, 2015
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    The castig numbers are on the side of the block below the cylinders.
    930.101.103.0R and 930.101.104.0R are the numbers for the early ones, until 1976 or '77. Then the .0R changes to .4R, and the casting has some modifications.

    Your choice to use the 993 head studs is perfect, all others are stell, not Dilavar, which is used because it has nearly the same coefficient of expansion in relation to temperature as aluminium. With steel studs, the force on these studs rises when the engine gets hot, and can cause damage to engine block or cylinder heads. Porsche did know why they used them on all Turbos from '75s 930 to 993 Turbo.
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  23. turbo3.6

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    have safe trip, see you at Rennsport.


     
  24. 375+

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    I will be there Thursday thru Sunday. Safe travels to all.
     
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    #4825 Michael B, Sep 23, 2015
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    I am sitting in the airport now awaiting a flight to my 930 so I can drive to Rennsport in style. Look for it on the grounds!
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