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  1. F1wannabe1

    F1wannabe1 Rookie

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    couldnt make out what the engine number is....green shroud??? metal air box?? what else is wrong?
     
  2. tomblue3

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    engine number should start with 686.... I'm pretty confident, that the picture on ebay shows 686. but what comes afterwards worries me a bit: I read something like 0445. A bit high if the VIN is 0019.
    Any other suggestions?
     
  3. onboost

    onboost Formula Junior

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    The lack of color around the lower tub and under the tank is correct and the restorer did a very good job replicating this. It can be seen but very little once the other parts are in place.
    It will appear proper for concours, or re-sale of course.

    Many recently restored cars show this area as fully painted (over-restored). Some customers and concours judges seem to like it.
     
  4. patina

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    #5629 patina, Jan 25, 2016
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    Just looked at '75 #182 and there is the faintest bit of green on the intake tube!
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  5. cnpapa24

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    I checked a car with a VIN before (14) and after this one (41) and the engine number seems about 400 numbers out of sequence. Also for some reason the body vin tag is scratched off and there seems to be a state VIN tag. These are likely issues related to the confiscation auction sale.
     
  6. cnpapa24

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    The car is now listed as sold. I would think some due diligence is required before the purchase is completed on this one.
     
  7. ignominus

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    Sep 6, 2013
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    I was trying to make a census of 3.0 turbos currently for sale in Europe, and this is what I found:

    Porsche 930 3.0 TURBO à DE-42329*Wuppertal Allemagne
    Porsche 930 3.0 TURBO à DE-42329*Wuppertal Allemagne
    Porsche 930 Turbo 3.0 à DE-50858*Köln Allemagne
    Porsche 930 TURBO 3.0 260 à FR-98000*Monaco France
    Porsche 930 3,0 Turbo /76 2 Hd. 50.000 Km. Originallack! à DE-80803*München Allemagne
    PORSCHE 911 (930) TURBO 3.0 260 1977 Essence occasion - Mauguio - Hrault 34
    Porsche 911 930 3,0 UR TURBO à DE-42699*Solingen Allemagne
    Porsche 911 930 3,0 Turbo deutsch à DE-42699*Solingen Allemagne
    Porsche 911 3,0 Turbo à DK-8643*Ans Danemark
    Porsche 911 Turbo 3.0 (Ur-Turbo) d'occasion, Essence, ? 189*911,- à Düsseldorf (US model)

    Some seem dodgy, and not many nice or original examples. It seems to me that some sellers are trying to take advantage of growing prices to move bad or molested examples, but that always happen in a rising market. Also stricking are the high asking prices (actually they seem to be rising), with the decent exemples above 250,000 euros.
     
  8. idart

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    #5633 idart, Jan 26, 2016
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    Fred - I took a closer look at this video clip of the start of the 1975 Le Mans it appears that the silver '75 Turbo ONS/pace car may have shark fin/gravel guards. June 1975 would be an early use of shark fins.

    Perhaps the three '75 Turbos at this Le Mans race will surface someday (birch green & sliver ONS safety cars and one entered in the race).
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  9. ignominus

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  10. idart

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  11. patina

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    #5636 patina, Jan 26, 2016
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    Given the amount of discussion recently regarding the 1975 model year turbos and in an attempt to contribute more to this thread I have scanned a really neat article from Auto Motor & Sport from May 1975 - I believe this was the first printed review of the 930. Unfortunately the article is in German but the photos have proved a great resource for us. Album with larger size files available here: http://imgur.com/a/WDzbe
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  12. ignominus

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    Congrats !!! What a sharp eye !!!
     
  13. rdwinelover

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    Great article. Thanks for posting it Patrick. I need to get my friend to translate..
     
  14. patina

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    #5639 patina, Jan 26, 2016
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    The google translate app on my iPhone using the camera function actually works quite well, at least you can get the gist of it!
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  15. Giuliakeka

    Giuliakeka Formula Junior

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    Right, difficult to see but we can catch it.
    By the way, I bring my car to the garage ( rebuild the brake caliper ), and under the sun, it is obvious the dashbord is leather. Maybe i will take it out to see how to arrange it before think to change. Did you complete the job alone ?
     
  16. idart

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    Fred, from the photos you have posted previously, it looks like your dash pad is leather and original.

    While it’s not hard taking the dash pad out, I hesitated removing the windshield myself so I had an experienced windshield repair guy come out, remove and reinstall a few weeks later. The time between R&R allowed me to detail & photograph under the dash pad and make sure there was no rust…happily none found :) After watching the windshield R&R firsthand, I wouldn’t hesitate doing the job myself in the future. The windshield has to be out before the dash pad is removed.

    Thankfully my dash pad was not glued down like the one in the video below (it shouldn't be) and you will not need to remove your ’75 speaker grill (or speaker) prior to dash pad removal as the speaker fits below the dash pad.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TtkulNeG14[/ame]
     
  17. WPOZZZ

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    I've found when installing windshields, it is best to used the factory Porsche seals. The aftermarket ones don't fit well in the corners.
     
  18. mrar

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    #5643 mrar, Jan 27, 2016
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  19. patina

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    Second photo is awesome!!!

    Would love that as a poster.
     
  20. idart

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    Nice details as well...without RoW rear bumper reflectors and may be the only production 930 Turbo ever made with the rear wiper on the right-hand side.
     
  21. onboost

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    #5646 onboost, Jan 27, 2016
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  22. idart

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    #5647 idart, Jan 28, 2016
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    ’75 Turbo #0080 has the same green mark. Mine was a little different being a green dot decal vs. paint mark. It will be interesting to learn more about these inspection marks and I’m also intrigued about the possibility that some 3-liter Turbo engines were green tagged…engines set aside for special customers (Early 911s registry link below). At the Porsche factory, my ’75 Turbo #0160 had 270 hp on the dyno before installation and I would think this would be outside the norm.

    E registry web site - Page 3
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  23. patina

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    As an aside, does anyone have a set of decent rear pop out quarter windows they are willing to part with? I have a frankenstein '78 that I would really like to install a set on.
     
  24. pu911

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    That conversation of the e site is interesting. Porsche did use what were called "high motors" in the 964 US Carrera Cups, the parts were hand selected and specially built- I'm not sure they were randomly selected but let me go back and do a little more digging.
    Phil
     
  25. thomasandersen

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    #5650 thomasandersen, Jan 28, 2016
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