not as popular lol same weight (unless gold chains count ) same truck transmission are ya kiddin? nice cars, but they are more alike than not
The weight of the 930 increased as production went on. No question, the earlier cars were lighter. In fact, The workshop manual confirms a weight of 1140 kg ( 2514 lbs) for 930 until Nov 1975, and then 1195 kg ( 2635 lbs) after Nov 1975. At 1140kg, the 1975 cars are the lightest turbo ever built. Curb Weight increased from 1140kg (2514 lbs) to around 1400 kg (3080 lbs) by the end of 3.3 liter production. There are just 284 MY 75 930s for example, that's pretty rare. 3 liter motor with no inter-cooler from a (raw) era when less was more. They also represent Porsche's first production Supercar. Regarding other changes, 15" rims (7 and 8 x 15) were standard (16"s not available till 1978). Personally, I think any Supercar in its original form is Supercool. Perhaps that's the appeal of the 3 liter Turbo Carrera. But for those who like the later cars, that's cool too. Something for everybody..
Dr Georg Konradsheim (author of the RS book) has a nice 1976 available in Saharabeige. http://www.classicdriver.com/uk/find/4100_results.asp?bsubmit=true&lmodelflag=14948&lmanufacturer=10106&whatbutton.x=0&page=0&lCarID=1789824 Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Here is a link to the gold 1977 which is available. http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/search/DRauSearchDetails.aspx?itemid=1129286
Hi Joe, Here it is with Chad............you can also find it on Speed Channel Rennsport Reunion IV as one of the feature cars! Regards, Mike Image Unavailable, Please Login
That is correct- if you want a 930 with a "rare transmission", 1989 is the only year with 5-speeds. I'd take an '89 over a non intercooled 3.0 (pre '78- all from 1978 on have 3.3 liter intercooled motors- faster and better torque and the more desirable motor over the 3.0 to most people). I love the pictures of the original 3.0 930s with the tartan interiors- awesome! The 3.0 is certainly more rare...Ideally I'd take one of each
i saw this one for sale seveal weeks ago. igt is a nice car, but i didn't inquire about it AS: For a 100k mile car it looks too good:
to finsh my thought looking soley at the pix: 1.) the interior looks to have been redone 2. ) looks to have been repainted 3.) incorrect bading on the deck lid 4.) no spats on the fenders i may be totrally wrong and have not conatected the seller to see what actaully has been done. but i'm looking for totally origional. maybe i sould call and find out and see what they want for it.
the choice would be based on waht you desire, but yes the best way to cover all the basis is to have several. if it were me: 1.) 75-77 2.) 79 3.) a actual RUF, DP, or Kremer coupe 4.) 89 factory slant 505 cab
i called the dealer and they were asking $35k for it and just toook a deposit. we did not discuss details of the car. looking closer at the pictures, the front valance/bumper/hood alignmenet looks off. at least it has the correct washer nozzles. i called
But only in the US. ROW never said "turbo Carrera". The fender flares where always done separately, from MJ74 to MJ89. Modelyear '89 (until June) had the 5-speed G50/50 gear box (and hydraulic clutch). MJ89 was 1335 kg compared to the 1140 kg MJ75. But is it correct that nonetheless there is no VIN starting 9305... also the MY75 have 9306...? If I remember correct the US-models of the 3.3 just had 265 PS/195 KW compared to the 'real' ROW Turbo 3.3 with 300 PS/221 KW. That would have been just a minor plus to the 3.0, which started with 260 PS/191 KW, with just 245 PS/180 KW left in MJ76.
I dont blame you. Either original (nice) or totally restored (correct) are the ones sought after. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Supercool. I bet he wants it for the weekend? I'm on the lookout for another for you and another for me (as discussed).. Wish I could find this original car which only had circa 17,000 miles when last I saw it. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
The issue I have with the 3.3 ltr cars is that they are just so common, less collectible, will never appreciate in value like the 3.0 liter cars, are far less cool to look at especially the tail & the interior spec etc, and don't sound nearly as nice as the 3.0 ltr cars which have a deep meaty growl, and give a delicious snap-crackle-pop on the overrun!! (not to mention a few flames ) But you are right, ideal scenario is to get one of each!
true regarding the numbers but i assure you that the 3.3 cars are not too far off of the 3.0 reservation. and if flames are your cup-o-tea, my 500hp andial built engine can give you your fix. i do understand your affinity for the 3.0 but please don't shun we 3.3 owners too badly. the 930 is a tremendous machine regardless of vintage.
Yes agreed that's why both Andrew & I have suggested to get one of each. Perhaps this will be a good time to point out that this is a thread about the 3.0 liter cars! So its to be expected that the likelihood of us waxing lyrical & extolling the virtues of 3.0 liter Turbo Carreras will be quite high.
joe, please make no mistake...you and i have very, very similar taste in cars beyond the 930. i seldom find anything you write out of line and i was not trying to joust. i love the homologation cars! cheers! pcb
Earlier in the thread I posted the restoration of a 1975 930. http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=141079941&postcount=77 It turns out that the car belongs to Porsche factory race driver from the 60s/70s Willie Kausen (in action below). The reason he sent the car over to Brian Doherty instead of having it done at the factory? The works just completed one and the bill was 250,000 Eu (!!) so Willie opted to have Brian do it in California for $125,000! Makes sense.. Image Unavailable, Please Login
