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964 RS America vs 964 turbo

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  1. Oengus

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    assuming rhe same condition which car has the greater upside?
    I’ve owned a 964 turbo and was thinking about getting another..... but also the RS looks interesting.

    Any comments would be appreciated
    Thanks
    Chas
     
  2. henryr

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    the turbo body on the 964 is the last of the breed.

    a nice RS is 100k and a nice turbo is 125k ish ?
     
  3. Vintage Racer

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    RS America would be my choice.
     
  4. GuyIncognito

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    easier to find a nice turbo than a nice RSA.

    964 is last of the classic 911 body and RWD for the turbo. that means a lot to me, your opinion may differ. turbo values pulled up IMO by the "Bad Boys" image/3.6.

    RSA is a small number, one market car but a bit of a compromise between Club Sport and true RS/GT3 type spec. so I think the RSA is probably the better investment long term-more upside potential IMO. to me a clean RSA with LSD and no radio/AC/sunroof is 964 perfection (well, except for a true RS). again, your opinion may differ.

    if you're buying to enjoy the car you can't go wrong. really depends on what you want, lighter/more agile or straight line speed/GT car.
     
  5. Oengus

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    yes thats seems about right Henry.

    Was even thinking of an early 930 turbo MY77/78
     
  6. henryr

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    the RSA reminds me of my speedster.... sort of special as to numbers produced but really just an after thought sales gimmick....
     
  7. Oengus

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    Henry what about an early 930 3.0 turbo? Not sure if theres any that aren't crazy money out there though.
     
  8. henryr

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    depends on what you want.... imho, the 964 version is a much better drive (all for around the same $$$ ?)


    to me... the 964 turbo is the best of bread. end of the development line with all the updates

    ROW suspension (or lower) and some speedlines and your good to go
     
  9. Oengus

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    Your right Henry
    I had a 91 turbo years ago and sold it for 44k ...... who knew LOL
     
  10. amenasce

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    Turbo 3.3 or 3.6?

    Also, you can probably import a real RS from Europe now. A bit more expensive though but these are the real deal.
     
  11. GuyIncognito

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    25 years old so yes, you can import a real RS. CJ Wilson's Porsche dealer in Fresno has THREE!!!!

    the maritime blue one is gorgeous.

    https://porschefresno.com/inventory/used/Porsche+964+RS+Fresno+California+1992+Maritime+1394059

    https://porschefresno.com/inventory/used/Porsche+964+RS+Fresno+California+1992+Ruby+Star+1245299

    https://porschefresno.com/inventory/used/Porsche+964+RS+Fresno+California+1992+Polar+Silver+1362901
     
  12. MD355

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    I drove a red 964 RS America back in 1997 in Boston (my first 911) and was amazing about how direct the car felt... There was minimal sound insulation and hard suspension and the car felt alive... It was also a little tricky to drive as you could feel the weight in the back and the lightness of the front... In the end, I bought a 993 which felt more modern and a better daily driver which I required... My guess is that the 964 turbo would feel more of a luxury cruiser in comparison to the 964 RS / RSA that is purpose built for the track... Now if you ask me which I grab the key and go away with, it would be the 964 turbo "bad boys" !!!!
     
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    That's insane money for what is basically a 964 with removed sound insulation, less weight and harder suspension.. The engine, I believe is the same... I think it is the limited production number that drives the price...
    Otherwise, I bet you could (back in 2014 at least, now it is more expensive) find a regular 964 C2 and convert it to RS specifications with relative small budget...

     
  14. Oengus

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    yup I picked up a regular 964 with 30k miles.
    lowered it and Im good to go.
     
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    Congratulations! Really dig those wheels.
     
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    Do you Porsche guys have an idea what a clean 10k mile RSA is worth these days?
     
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    Is there actually such a vehicle? If there is I can only guess it is going to be dear - Hagerty values 1992 Porsche RS at #1 $400k, #2 $290k, #3 $225k #4 $145k but I would imagine a 10k mile car is going to be north of $400k perhaps closer to $500k assuming there even is such a car.
     
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    I actually just heard about just such a car - lol. ;)

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  21. JAM1

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    The car you mentioned is an “RS”. I’m talking about an “RS America” aka “RSA”.
     
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    Hagerty does not list a RSA only RS so no help.
     
  23. Oengus

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    250k my guesstimate
     
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    BaT auctions show mid-100s to low $200s

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