97 456 GTA - Price Estimate for Maintenance Help

Wowsers....just fast math is that $34k-ish?

Out of curiosity how many total miles on the car?

That gives me a tummy ache.

 

List sounds reasonable, prices are outrageous. Find another shop.

 

Prices are way out of whack.

Just look at #3 for example.

 

The list is not unreasonable, but if parts/labor at a shop can be ridiculous.. as Mirek points out, the rear suspension... is suspect. I bought my 456 in July, and was advised the rear suspension needed repair, shocks rebuilt, and accumulators replaced... quote was not much less than what you received. I bought replacement accumulators for around $200... replaced the speed sensor for around $200 in parts, installed the parts myself and have no other issues... so an $8000 quote was actually fixed for 400 in parts and a couple hours of my time.....if you cannot do the labor yourself, fully understand as you gotta want to DYI on these cars... but I'd find another shop.

 

This is pretty much a complete shopping list of items associated with the model. Can the motor mounts need replacing with 575 mounts? Yes. But maybe not this minute. Can the coolant hoses of the intakes age and leak because it gets really hot up there? Yep, well known. Is today the day? If there has been nothing on the garage floor, probably not! Did the car overheat when you drove it? They sure seem to think that it is. Roughly, I'd say you are getting the whole "how to restore a 456" list. And priced pretty damn high at that!! Those are not nice people at that shop.

"In the first 20 minutes of a poker game, you don't know who the mark is, you're the mark!"

 

i just got quoted 2200 for a shock on my 456. im going with a rebuilt one for 800

 

Delta Vee on the rebuild? And who quoted a new one, I thought they were NLA.

 

yes pretty sure delta vee. i did not make the call myself, and independent quoted it for me. From the factory there was a lead time so it makes sense they are not in stock

 

Funny, that long list and no mention of cam belts. Definitely need a different shop. That one item could lead to catastrophic engine kaboom, and it could happen any time. The rest seems normal to me, welcome to Ferrari prices. A different shop could slash all those in half though and still make a profit.

 

The car’s valuations doesnt justify that repair bill… That’s the problem, even if you cut that bill in half it’s a tough pill to swallow

 

Timing belts are cambelts.

 

The list also does not include replacement of all of the degrading rubber bits in and around the gas tank and fuel pumps - which most likely has been occurring and can cause subsequent expensive misdiagnosis as it goes into the engine (fuel pump replacement, injector flushing, fuel filter replace, etc....)

How are the door seals ?

 

Yep my power steering hose went poof
3k miles on the car
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Bilstein UK do a rebuild for $200, very quick turnaround,DeltaVee great work if you can be without
the car at Rob’s convince not yours.

 

Oops, thought I read it well enough, but I did not.

 

Item # 2 on his list included all belts.....a mere $13.4k +

 

I purchased a 456gt (95) in 2000 with 7000mi and it currently has about 27000. I agree with "laserguru' and would offer the follwing comments:

1) Coolant hoses are a tough call with no signs of leakage on your driveway they are likely OK. However failures tend to be dramatic and will leave you immobile. I changed mine in 2002 at 16000 mi and they appeared fine. I would be suspicious that overheating and no heat (despite AC working) might simply be due to low coolant / air in the system

2) Changing fluids is reasonable. My car has always had very minor oil leaks (not enough to leave a puddle on the garage floor) which I elect to leave alone and have not gotten worse. I changed cam belts in 2010 at about 24000 mi. These were the original belts and appeared in perfect shape. Many people on this list will be horrified that I operated with the same belts for 15 years but my opinion is these degrade with mileage but not significantly with age.

3) I also had a leaking shock which was repaired by Bilsten for free (a long story) rebuilding yours should offer a much cheaper solution.

4) Tires are also a tough call 10 years is usually considered the maximum you should go regardless of mileage. However depending on how they were stored and how you will use them a visual check for degradation may be sufficient.

5) I don't know anyone who changes brake hoses as a maintenance item. Changing brake fluid is a good idea however.

6) My power steering pump was leaking around the shaft seal and was rebuilt by the manufacturer (ZF Industries) in 2000 for $300. It is the same as a VW / Audi pump # 054 145 165 LX and was done through an outfit named Power Steering Specialists in Westerville Ohio. Not sure if they still exist.

7) Engine mounts seem to be a common problem - not sure what "sagging" means however - mine have never been changed and appear fine.

8) $250 for wipers seems well "over the top"

9) see above #1

10) I have had this happen several times on both sides. The solution has been to carefully lubricate the external moving parts.

11) There should be " some way" to repair this - I have not had the problem

12) Rotors rust from disuse - they should be able to be machined and reused unless they are less than the minimum thickness after machining which seems unlikely given the low mileage.

Just my opinion - hope this helps

 

Forgot to mention that my car also developed a major leak from the radiator in 2002 - apparently not an unusual problem for these cars. I removed the radiator (a bit more troublesome than I anticipated) and took it to an ordinary radiator repair shop, Not sure what the actual cause was but they repaired it for a grand total of $56 and it has been OK since. If you are actually loosing coolant a pressure check of the system might be a good idea..

 

Are brake rotors suitable for vapour blasting? It's amazing how gentle but effective this is on metal parts. They look like new after treatment.