A Bobileff Daytona Restoration

Congratulations!
I like blue Daytonas, and it is an original color!
Good luke for this restauration

 

This car would fall within the early group that had the nose with the pop up headlights painted silver? A USA market car for example in the early 14900 serial number range has the silver painted nose feature.
CH

 

14867 did not have the silver painted pop-up headlights.

Marcel Massini

 

General Motors did it too, for automatic transmission fluid....engine oil would be worse in the event of failure!

A good idea at the time I suppose....

Still, to think of a mechanic missing that and tearing into the powerplant....

 

Extremely common for automatic transmissions ... even my Toyota people mover has the automatic transmission cooler as a tank on the bottom of the water radiator.

I feel for the mechanic, easy thing to miss and this is the first time I have heard of an engine oil cooler being part of a water radiator. Never heard of this before, just automatic transmissions. I thought engine oil for this sort of car would have need much more cooling than this? ... obviously not though .
Pete

 

i'm excited too.

 

It's not that unusual to have a oil cooler there. All your 246 Dino's run a water/oil intercooler, 365 Gt 2+2's, Daytona's, 365 GTC/4's and 365 GTC/2 cars ran the oil cooler inside the water radiator. A great idea to quickly stabilize temperatures, with obvious side effects when they fail.
Gary Bobileff

 

Correct, Gary. Remember the Porsche 944s with the "tipping" heat exchanger? Oops!

 

Can you please share a photo showing the Scaglietti Body Number? It is stamped on the right side (when driving), right front of engine compartment, opposite where the chassis number is stamped, same area but right side. Thank you very much.

Marcel Massini

 

Ouch! Let's see: Value, say $300,000. Cost of resto, $500,000. Call the SCUBA patrol, someone's way under water. Not to mention the initial cost. I greatly admire what you guys (and Grant) are doing, but...

Keep posting photos; they are fascinating!

 

Even in this sad state it is still a beautiful car.

And what a glorious engine.

 

If Gary were to charge $500k for a restoration, he wouldn't need to charge me to service my car, because the guys having resto's done would be paying enough to cover the rest of us.

 

Judging by the state of your car, it looks like everything will need replacing or rebuilding, if you are going to do it to a high standard, which from what i have read so far you normally do, i would say around $300,000, maybe more, i think what Ed was trying to imply [ i don't think he meant the price literally] was that the guy will need to be braced for the cost and have deep pockets.

Lots of the parts for the Daytona are running out in the UK, so i guess its the same over there [ no fuel tanks left, i had the last one at $2100, not oil tanks left, front wings etc etc]. Ferrari UK want $30 for just one suspension bolt and it looks like a lot of the big price items in the engine bay on your car would be shot ie coils, brake servo's etc etc and i guess the engine will need looking at and the gear box [ gear box rebuild is $45,000 and engine $70,000 by Ferrari uk]
I got lucky finding my guy Mike as he had worked for Ferrari for 30 years, he new all the contacts that Ferrari used, so it was much cheaper for my rebuild but has taken a lot of organizing to sort every thing out, but it still cost alot and still is as its not finished yet.
That's my guess anyway, it should be a great thread.
Grant

 

that engine photo is super cool. Reminds me of a nice vintage bottle of wine that has been sitting in a cellar properly stored ready to be popped. Good luck with everything!

 

The motor is "corked' , and needs a rebuild!
Gary Bobileff

 

Pictures are truely deceiving. On the surface the motor appeared as the best part of the car. Too bad it's frozen.

 

what were the original colors?
what year is it?

 

I always wonder when someone asks this sort of question why they didn't just read the thread?


"Marcel Massini
Original exterior color: Blu Dino 106-A-72.
Original interior color: Nero 8500.
Assembly sequence #594.
Scaglietti Body #687/B.
22 December 1971 Factory Completion Date.
Euro version.
LHD.
Delivered new to official dealer Motor S.a.s. in Bologna, Italy.

Please note: The original interior color was NOT tan but black.

Marcel Massini"

 

Not surprised, rust never sleeps

 

thanks marcel,
your data base is extremely helpful and thanks for your generosity in sharing the info.
ed

 

CarloR,
there seems to be confusion regarding the way the front fender line ends at the reflector area. now that the paint is removed ,can you confirm if the line is straight or does it curve inward just above the reflector?
thanks,
ed