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  1. Tom y92

    Tom y92 Rookie

    Sep 24, 2013
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    I own a 92 348 ts.When I activate the AC unit it will run for about five min and then stop.After sitting for a few min, it will turn on but will only last a few moments.Can anyone help?Thanks Tom y92
     
  2. Iain

    Iain F1 Rookie

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    Sounds like its low on gas & the low pressure switch is turning it off. Get someone to put some guages on it & then you'll know what you've got.
     
  3. Tom y92

    Tom y92 Rookie

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    Thanks Iain,I guess I am stuck going to the local Ferrari dealer.Again thanks for the reply
     
  4. greyboxer

    greyboxer F1 World Champ

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    Why could you not try a local a/c specialist instead of the dealer ?
     
  5. FasterIsBetter

    FasterIsBetter F1 Veteran

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    Ditto on that. The AC in these cars is standard AC equipment. There is nothing "Ferrari" about it. Any decent AC shop should be able to diagnose the problem and fix it easily, and a lot less expensively than a dealer.
     
  6. Iain

    Iain F1 Rookie

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    Also, if it needs re-gassing and they say you have to change the type of gas that's in it, DON'T just do it. Come back in here to discuss.
     
  7. dkilka

    dkilka Formula Junior

    May 8, 2007
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    Have you checked the condition of the notorious "hidden A/C fuse". Would be a good time to replace this whilst your having the A/C system checked over.
     
  8. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Dec 10, 2005
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    You are on the right track mate. :)

    But...................I'd say the thermo fan on the a/c condenser is not working and the a/c compressor is kicking the clutch out under high pressure.

    When the condenser cools a little, then the a/c compressor will kick back in again until the high pressure switch kicks the compressor back out again. This process will repeat itself over and over again.

    Start the a/c Tom and look at the right front tyre and listen for the little electric fan noise. If the condenser fan is not working, check for power at the fuse and repair or replace.

    If it has power, then you might have a dead fan. But check that first mate, it's free to do so.

    If the fan is working, then take Iain's advice and put some a/c gauges on it to see what the a/c pressures are doing then go from there.

    Please be sure to keep us updated along the way. :)
     
  9. Mozella

    Mozella Formula Junior

    Mar 24, 2013
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    I second the recommendation to go to a good A/C shop as opposed to a Ferrari shop. However, at the risk of coming across as a jerk, talk to the guy doing the work and explain that scratches in your paintwork are not something you want. The Ferrari guys at my shop wear soft red uniforms featuring pants with draw strings in place of belt loops and they're VERY careful.

    But your local A/C shop man may happen to be a Champion Bull Rider with a seven pound belt buckle and not much appreciation for nice cars.
     
  10. Tom y92

    Tom y92 Rookie

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    Thanks to all that replied to my a/c problem.It ended up to be a low freon condition which I solved.I called the local Ferrari dealer to find the location of the charge ports on my 348.Unlike other cars they are not on the compressor.The service rep woudn't tell me where the charge ports were located and informed me this should only be done by a Ferrari mechanic.To sum up,I finally found the connector,put in 8 ounces of freon and learned a lesson to NEVER deal with a Ferrari dealer
     
  11. Mozella

    Mozella Formula Junior

    Mar 24, 2013
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    I have never made my living servicing A/C systems, but I do hold a federal refrigeration license. I would argue that most likely you did not actually "solve" your problem.

    Nearly all automotive A/C systems use a compressor which is driven by a rotating shaft with an ordinary shaft seal separating the refrigerant from the atmosphere. So, unlike your sealed home refrigerator unit which might run for 40 years, your car A/C will slowly leak. However, the leak should be VERY slow and you can help things out by running your A/C for a few minutes every two weeks or once a month. That way the system gets a little work-out, especially the shaft and associated seal.

    So if your car hasn't be serviced in 5 or 10 years it is possible that it was exactly half a pound low on refrigerant and nothing else is wrong. But that is a VERY slim possibility. It is possible that your low and high pressure switches can protect your system from serious damage, but I would strongly recommend that you take your car to an A/C shop or find a friend who knows what he's doing and at a bare minimum hook up a set of gauges to see what's going on with your A/C system.

    As others have pointed out, there is nothing "Ferrari" about your system and any qualified person can work on it. But watch out for big belt buckles.
     
  12. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    There ya go, Iain was spot on.

    Hence the importance of putting on a/c gauges before you do anything to an a/c system.

    If you had gauges or had access to them (or took the car to a workshop) the gauges would have shown low system pressure indicating that it indeed would be cutting out on low pressure.

    Topping it up is ok, will just have to see how long it lasts.

    Sounds like it has a leak, could be a big one or a very small one. See how you go mate and thanks for letting us know.

    +348
     
  13. Iain

    Iain F1 Rookie

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    I don't think there is an automotive AC system out there that doesn't eventually run dry. Last time I had my 328 gassed it was done by a guy who came to my house & so I asked him to check both my and my wife's daily drivers. Both systems far less than full at 4 & 5 years old.
     
  14. Wade

    Wade Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Wow, a mobile A/C Guy! Wish there were someone like that around here. I need to inquire...
     
  15. yelcab

    yelcab F1 World Champ
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    Craigslists under auto services, or auto parts is your friend ,,,
     
  16. Iain

    Iain F1 Rookie

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    They are fairly common in the UK.
     
  17. Wade

    Wade Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Yes, based on that I could be one of them. Finding a knowledgeable and recommended tech is the real problem. ;)
     

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