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A Lot of Metal will cross the Block

Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by Napolis, Jul 26, 2010.

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  1. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
    Honorary Owner

    Oct 23, 2002
    32,118
    Full Name:
    Jim Glickenhaus
    The number of cars coming up for auction at Pebble is mind blowing.

    Interesting times.
     
  2. Mrpbody44

    Mrpbody44 F1 Veteran

    Jul 5, 2007
    7,899
    St Augustine Florida
    Full Name:
    Steve Metz
    It is indeed. I think we here in the vintage section predicted this two years ago if I recall. Big demographic shift and a lot of metal will need to be moved. My best friend had a health scare last year and almost unloaded some very nice cars. Thank god he got his health back and is doing well.
     
  3. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
    Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Dec 6, 2002
    79,143
    Houston, Texas
    Full Name:
    Bubba
    Someone should buy Gil Nickel's car, and give it back to the Winery...
     
  4. Diablo_4_Ever

    Diablo_4_Ever Formula Junior

    Nov 9, 2004
    949
    Netherlands
    Anyone know the estimate on the TR "pontoon fender"?
     
  5. New River KTM

    New River KTM Rookie

    Sep 11, 2009
    45
    Given the current economic time I would have to guess at a sell price of under $10M. What does everyone else think?
     
  6. Ferraripilot

    Ferraripilot F1 World Champ
    Owner Project Master

    May 10, 2006
    17,171
    Atlanta
    Full Name:
    John!
    New generation of owners/buyers coming in?
     
  7. amenasce

    amenasce Three Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Oct 17, 2001
    33,014
    Full Name:
    Joe Mansion
    Anything that might go your way?
     
  8. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
    Honorary Owner

    Oct 23, 2002
    32,118
    Full Name:
    Jim Glickenhaus
    The wheel's still in spin...
     
  9. Simon^2

    Simon^2 F1 World Champ

    Oct 17, 2005
    12,313
    At Sea Level
    Nope.
     
  10. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Dec 6, 2002
    79,143
    Houston, Texas
    Full Name:
    Bubba
    The high end cars are still trending upward, IMO...all that cash has to go 'somewhere'....
     
  11. targanero

    targanero Formula 3

    May 31, 2005
    1,661
    New York
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    Simon
    gettin' out while the gettin's good
     
  12. geno berns

    geno berns F1 Rookie

    Oct 26, 2006
    3,005
    Midwest
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    Geno
    What a line up! RM added a third night, has several hundred cars I believe. Even muscle car Mecum with it's TDF is scoring Ferraris. Will be fun to watch the results for sure...

    Geno
     
  13. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
    Owner

    Jan 11, 2008
    41,690
    Sarasota
    Full Name:
    David
    Interesting times.
    For better or for worse.
     
  14. Peloton25

    Peloton25 F1 Veteran

    Jan 24, 2004
    7,645
    California, USA
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    Erik
    Gooding and Co have just announced the addition of a McLaren F1 road car to their auction:

    I'm not sure if their full description will expand on all the details, but this particular F1 has an interesting twist to its history which I'd be glad to share with anyone who might have a need to know. It's also been out of Ellison's collection since May 2006.

    >8^)
    ER
     
  15. Kevin2772

    Kevin2772 Formula Junior

    Jul 30, 2006
    732
    Ohio
    Full Name:
    Kevin
    Do you think the fact that so many super high end cars coming to auction at once would have an impact on their values?
     
  16. UroTrash

    UroTrash Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Jan 20, 2004
    38,863
    Purgatory
    Full Name:
    Clifford Gunboat
    Is the list/catalog out yet?
     
  17. Peloton25

    Peloton25 F1 Veteran

    Jan 24, 2004
    7,645
    California, USA
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    Erik
  18. amenasce

    amenasce Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Oct 17, 2001
    33,014
    Full Name:
    Joe Mansion
    That yellow TR would be a nice sight in Rye ! :)
     
  19. Terra

    Terra F1 Rookie
    Rossa Subscribed

    Feb 16, 2004
    3,677
    You have a PM.
     
  20. iwanna860monza

    iwanna860monza Karting

    Sep 19, 2004
    243
    All the potential $1mil + (on a good day)

    Mecum

    Ferrari 275 GTB/4 #9721 - No estimate
    Shelby Cobra 427 #CSX3209 - 1 owner - No estimate
    Shelby Cobra 427 #CSX3102 - No estimate
    Ferrari 250 Tour de France #1321 - Le Mans 1959 3rd - No estimate $5 mil. ?
    Ferrari 365 GTS/4 Daytona Spider #14857 - No estimate

    Russo & Steele

    Shelby Cobra #CSX2009 - FIA/ SCCA - No estimate
    AMC Javelin Trans Am Racer - No estimate ??

    Gooding

    Ford GT40 Mark 1 - #?? -
    Ferrari 250 GT LWB California Comp. - #1603GT - No esitmate $5 mil. + ?
    Maserati A6G/54 Coupe - #?? - estimate $1.4 - 1.8 mil.
    Ferrari 250GT SWB SEFAC Coupe - #2845GT - estimate $6 - 8 mil.
    Ferrari 275 GTB/4 - #?? - estimate $1 - 1.4 mil.
    Mercedes S - Type Boattail - #?? - No estimate $5 mil. ?
    Aston Martin DB4GT - #?? - Estimate $850,000 - $1.1 mil.
    Ferrari 250GT Tour de France - #?? - Estimate $2.6 - $3.4 mil.
    Ferrari 340 America Spider - #0140AM - Estimate $2 - 2.6 mil.
    Mercedes 770K Pullman - #?? - Estimate $1.5 - 2 mil.
    Maserati 200Si - #2401 - Estimate - $2.4 - $2.7 mil.
    Ferrari 365 GTB/4 Daytona Speciale - #?? - No estimate $1.5 mil. ??
    Mercedes 540K "A" or "Special Roadster" - #?? - No details/ estimate $1 - 7 mil. ?
    McLaren F1 - #062 - No estimate $3 mil. + ?
    Alfa Romeo 6C1750 "Mini Monza" - #?? - No details/ estimate $1.5 mil. ?
    Alfa Romeo 8C2300 Monza - #2311218 - No estimate $6 mil. ?

    Bonhams

    Porsche 917K #026/031 - No estimate $2.5 mil. ?
    Gulf GR8 - #802 - Estimate $1.3 - 1.6 mil.
    Mercedes SS - # 35257 - Estimate $2 - 3 Mil.
    Maserati A6GCS - #2053 - No estimate $1.5 mil. +

    RM

    Ferrari Enzo #?? - Estimate $900,000 - $1.05 mil.
    Shelby Cobra #CSX2557 - Estimate $1.2 - 1.5 mil.
    Ferrari 512 BB/LM #26681 - Estimate $800,000 - 1.0 mil.
    Ferrari 410SA #1323SA - Estimate $1.6 - 2.2 mil.
    Duesenberg SJ #SJ528/2551 - Estimate $1.1 - 1.5 mil.
    Ferrari 500 Mondail # - Estimate $1.5 - 1.8 Mil.
    Bugatti Type 51 #51-132 - Estimate $3.5 - 4.5 mil.
    Ferrari 365 GTS/4 Daytona Spider #14543 - Estimate $1.1 - 1.25 mil.
    Packard Twelve Custom Coupe #100605 - Estimate $1.2 - 1.4 mil.
    Ferrari 250 GT Spider Series 1 #0979GT - Estimate $1.5 - 1.8 mil.
    Jaguar D - Type #XKD558 - Estimate $2 - 2.75 mil.
    Ferrari 275 GTB/6C #8233 - Estimate $1.1 - 1.3 mil.
    Ferrari 375MM Coupe #0416AM - Estimate $5 - 6 mil.
    Delahaye 175S FF & F Roadster #815023 - Estimate $4 - 6 mil.
    Ferrari 250 Testa Rossa - #0732TR - No estimate - $10 mil. + ?
    Rolls Royce 40/50 HP Silver Ghost HJM Tourer #2517 - Estimate $1 - 1.5 mil.
    Talbot Lago T150C Teardrop - #90034 - Estimate $3.5 - 4.5 mil.
    Ferrari 250GT LWB California - #1489GT - Estimate $2.5 - 3.25 mil.
    Delahaye 135MS De Villars Cabriolet #60123 - Estimate $1.2 - 1.5 mil.
    Ferrari 275 GTB/4 #10387 - Estimate $1 - 1.2 mil.
    Ferrari FXX #142613 - Estimate 1.8 - 2.4 mil.
    Mercedes 540K #130913 Special Cabriolet - estimate $1.1 - 1.3 mil.


    So $120 mil. Easy, well at least possible
     
  21. xs10shl

    xs10shl Formula 3

    Dec 17, 2003
    2,037
    San Francisco
    To quote an observation I made on another site: based on Monterey auction history, the only guarantee we have is that someone is sure to spend $35,000 on a BMW Isetta.
     
  22. ClassicFerrari

    ClassicFerrari F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa

    Jan 7, 2004
    16,798
    Toronto
    Full Name:
    Vasco
    Thanks for sharing! I aint no expert but isnt that a low estimate for a BBLM?
     
  23. billnoon

    billnoon Formula 3
    BANNED

    Aug 22, 2003
    1,176
    La Jolla, California
    Full Name:
    Bill Noon
    With a bit of inside knowledge, I would state the estimates on the BB/LM are likely spot on... maybe a bit high on the high side but no reserve at RM means no reserve. Whatever the final bid is, the car is not going back to Chicago but onto a new and hopefully enthusiastic home.

    Hope someone is paying attention as that is one very special machine. Wish I could have made the sale but we went to market two years too late with it.

    Cheers,

    Bill
     
  24. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

    Nov 20, 2002
    17,673
    Tauranga, NZ
    Full Name:
    Pete
    There are 2 cars there that would really make Jim's collection unbelievably amazing, ie. the Mk1 GT40 and the 917 Porsche.

    Or is the 917 a little too modern for Jim's road use option?
    Pete
     
  25. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
    Honorary Owner

    Oct 23, 2002
    32,118
    Full Name:
    Jim Glickenhaus

    917's aren't really suited for road use.

    They are wonderful.

    The MKI I'd buy isn't for sale.

    Best
     

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