A question for Ron Dennis.................

I too am surprised at the treatment JPM received. Maybe a bit far fetched, but Montoya is technically still in the Daimler Chrysler racing family. Sibling infighting?

 

simple. because JPM just didn't have anymore motivation to drive for the team. he was constantly made fun of, his weight..bla bla.. he just wanted to leave ASAP. kimi, on the other hand, is still determined to win this year.

 

Your right about that, there was a good article in F1 Magazine regarding the same point you are making here. It is really silly of Ron Dennis knowing he was going to get Alonso and that Kimi was already leaving (regardless of what the press reports) not to support JPM in a better manner. JPM did win three races in 05 for McLaren and the car this year was not suited to his driving style. Ron really is kind of a hypocrite, he always cited favortism at Ferrari for MS, yet he did the same with Kimi.

 

I'd say because JPM put in particularly piss poor performances: Crashing in Montreal and driving straight into Kimi at Indy.

Look what happened to JV: Also axed after an accident (quintuple alliteration, I'm proud).

 

Probably taking out your teammate and causing 5 cars to crash at the US GP after the farce of last year probably did not help.

 

PDR is a much better racer than JPM!

Best decision of Dennis' carer to fire JPM!

 

So if JV is a world champion with an immense amount of exprience...

WHY WAS HE SCARED OF S SHOOTOUT WITH A ROOKIE?!?!?

I might make ridiculous statements... but JV is ridiculous and so is Montoya!

They both deserve to be in NASCRAP!

 

Ron Dennis and JPM, these two personalities are fire and gasoline. Both arrogant pricks. The last straw was JPM running into the back of KR at Indianapolis.

 

Hmm, that argument would go pretty far I think. A few more teams come to mind instantly. One has blue colors, the other one red.

 

As usual Impy, you don't know what you talk about!

I have no preference between Montoya or de la Rosa, but Montoya has actually WON GPs, WON Indy and WON one of the US single-seater championship (can't remember if IRL or ChampCar), so anybody who claims that he is inferior to DLR as a driver is not using his grey cells there.

I accept that some time a driver seems at a low ebb, and doesn't perform well at a point in time, but you have to look at the whole picture.

Same goes about your 'hate' of Villeneuve. I would be the first to say that Jacques was a awkward customer and didn't do too well in his last years. But don't forget that the man won the Indy car championship, won Indy, won GPs and won one World Championship. Not bad for someone you have once described as 'useless'.

I am sure that on the present F1 grid, there are drivers who would give one eye for that kind of 'pedigree', which some of them have no chance to obtain.

 

William, JPM won the CART Championship when it was at its most competitive state. He won the Indy 500 (IRL) first time out. In addition, besides Kimi he was quicker than all of his teammates. Even last year he was not that far off Kimi's pace, he just pulls some dumb moves sometimes. I think the reason that Impy is making those comments, is because he was the one driver that MS tangled with and came away with the short end of the stick. If not for Ferrari's nonsense after Hungray 03 and some bad luck, he should have been 03 WC.

 

I will never consider driving in a circle as racing!
Never will I consider a racer seriously who wants to race in a circle!
JV and Montoya are NASCRAP bound wash outs!

If I remember correctly Montoya ended up third in the championship in 03. So he did not come close. Close would be second. JPM one only two races that year and his team mate Ralf won two races too! They did well because of the strong car that BMW-Williams had developed for 2003!

1 Michael Schumacher 93
2 Kimi Räikkönen 91
3 Juan Pablo Montoya 82

There is no such thing as luck in F1! Luck and story lines belong in NASCRAP!

 

JPM was close in 2003, to deny that is idiotic. The 2003 Williams was very strong, but there was significant parity between teams that year as well - which is why that championship is one of the best ever. JPM is a quality driver though, why else would he have gotten hired in the first place? DLR is second rate, hence him being on the reserve.

 

Impy. Another childish statement that, I am sure, will endear you to the followers of NASCAR, IRL and CHAMPCAR on this site!

Oval racing may not be 'your cup of tea', but it had provided very good racers who had no trouble to adapt to circuit or road-racing when they chose to. Mario Andretti is the first that come to mind, but there were others.

Your denigratory comment about oval racers is really beyond belief!
So, you think that Petty, the Unser brothers, AJ Foyt, Ernhart or Mears were not serious racers, you must be kidding!

Why then, 'serious racers' like Clark, G. Hill, Gurney, Stewart, Hulme forfaited GP participation at time to compete at Indy? They were certainly not 'washed-out' when they went there.

Oval racing is JUST another motorsport discipline, just as deserving of interest as F1, rallying, endurance, sports cars, hillclimbing.

 

Yes. What you said.

Some people just do not understand racing in general, and more specifically, the skill it takes to drive a car at 195 MPH constantly, on the edge of disaster, with constant g-forces, usually 1" from three other cars. Frankly, NASCAR offers the kind of side by side racing we will never see in F1. As you say, two different motorsport disciplines, really silly to even compare the two.

 

Neither Todt or Briatore come close to Ron Dennis' personality, or lack of. Possibly Frank Williams. Even Flavio has some endearing qualities that can make you smile.

JPM's attitude just did not sit well with Dennis. Especially not accepting responsibility for his mistakes, like at Indy.

 

Ron, don't you think it is funny when Ron says "Oh McLaren really is a fun team on the inside". He is so full of himself it is funny. What was great was when Adrian Newey first came to McLaren he painted his office in a Blue Egg Shell color and got hell from RD. You would figure after hiring a designer of Newey's quality his interest should be on how fast the car went, which it did in 1998 when Mika took the championship and Mclaren won the constructors.

 

Yes, quality drivers (JPM and JV) go to NASCRAP!

DLR stays in F1 witha possibility of a race seat with a top team!

Racing in a circle is plain dumb! Turn left, Turn left, Turn left, Turn left!
You do not need a racer for that activity, a computer operated car would suffice!
F1, rallying, endurance and hill climbing are deserving of the title racing!

No one is comparing F1 to NASCRAP!
You cannot compare real racing to driving round and round in circle!

 

I think Ron Dennis was in a pissed off mood after leaving North America with a stupid move by Montoya to take out Raikkonen and another crash by him in Canada the week before. Of course, Canada was a racing incident and blame cannot be attributed to Montoya alone.

I think Ron must have wondered what had happened to Montoya in 2006 - a man who was a fantastic overtaker with lots of speed and bravado. Montoya looked to be on the pace at the end of 2005 and should have come strong in 2006. But this didn't happen. Montoya was slow throughout the year and worse still was crashing a lot.

Montoya's reputation was falling like a rock in the McLaren camp and I guess his sudden announcement to join Nascar must have been the last straw. Pedro is no Montoya by any means but at least he is good for finishing 6th-8th in the race. And being steady driver he wasn't likely to make mistakes. Perhaps that's why Ron decided to cut his losses and let go of Montoya.

I think Montoya had really come off the boil this year - he wasn't driving like the way he did before.

 

LOL! He's like the guy who laughs at his own bad jokes and thinks he's funny.

 

C'mon Impy. I know even you don't actually believe that, do you buddy? Any true Champion will acknowledge that luck is a factor at some point in their success, whether it's extremely minor or quite significant. No matter how well you prepare, and how good you are, there is just no possible way anyone can control all the variables.

As far as story lines go, they've always been a part of F1, just like other sports. When you lack story lines, more or less it means you lack personalities.