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...a real classic Maserati!

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  1. ColdWater

    ColdWater Formula Junior

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    Many thanks, Nik! What a beautiful car, remarkably similar to Ferrari 212 Export #0128. It really deserves to be finished.
     
  2. wbaeumer

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    Nik,
    great car! But why don`t you post the photos in th OSCA-thread?

    Ciao!
    Walter
     
  3. wbaeumer

    wbaeumer F1 Veteran
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    Yep, - very similar!
    Nik, was this the original color-combination?

    Ciao!
    Walter
     
  4. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

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    I believe the Maserati brothers created OSCA after they left Maserati ... thus which is really more a Maserati?

    Pete
     
  5. wbaeumer

    wbaeumer F1 Veteran
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    ...wrong point here!

    Ciao!
    Walter
     
  6. elads

    elads Formula Junior

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    This OSCA - the ex “Gig” Villoresi Vignale re-bodied car, has surfaced about 9 months ago, and has since been shopped around. Its for sale. I received 3 different offers from three different dealers. Its pretty complete, although to date i have not seen the engine compartment.

    As a side note, they is a period re-body on a Morreli Spyder body (arguably more significant) and has a body remarkably similar to the Vignale bodied Cunningham C3.
    On the face an interesting car, but not Vignale's finest.

    It does appear in the Zagari OSCA book with a period picture (look at the MT4 section)

    rgds
    elad
     
  7. biz5300

    biz5300 Formula Junior

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    Yes .. tHIS WAS ONE OF THE FIRST CARS AND HAD A SILURO BODY, AND WAS REBODIED IN 53 ?? For sale sale in firenze as is FOR A LOT OF EUROS
     
  8. PSk

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    Or were you not contesting that the Maserati brothers created OSCA?, but something else?

    Best
    Pete
     
  9. wbaeumer

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    It is definitely not the question which or what is more a Maserati!

    The OSCA`s are fantastic cars - but non of them are bearing the name Maserati on it!!! And...there is an OSCA-tread on this Forum. So...?

    Ciao!
    Walter
     
  10. elads

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  11. ColdWater

    ColdWater Formula Junior

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    Thanks very much for the insights. Perhaps not the very finest of Vignale's efforts (compared with, for example, an Abarth 205 . . .), but with both Vignale and Zagato I find character more interesting then beauty.

    Don
     
  12. wbaeumer

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    yes, ...and? Its still an OSCA and no Maserati! Period! However, OSCA`s a great cars!

    Ciao!
    Walter
     
  13. spontemea

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    Hi Babe
    I miss you :-(((((((((((((((((((((((((

    Have a safe trip home ...waiting for you....



     
  14. wbaeumer

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    Ooops...The MIGHTY BABE posted here for the 1st. time!!!! I am impressed! ::))

    Ciao!
    Walter
     
  15. wbaeumer

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  16. ColdWater

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    Walter, greatly enjoyed spending the evening with you at Pocono. Sorry the weather caused us to bail out early (literally and figuratively). It has taken until this past week for the inside of the car to dry out.

    Didn't know Crump ever had an A6 1500 (he writes so disparagingly about them in Maserati Road Cars). Absence of a hood scoop suggests a s/n lower than #090, but that looks like peeling original paint. According to the Hofer record of original delivery, it appears that no light-colored cars were sold until #098. So I'm stumped.

    Best,
    Don
     
  17. wbaeumer

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    Don, yep, it was a very nice evening with you and your son at Skytop Lodge! The weather on Saturday was more
    for the Andrea Doria who also sunk in misty weather....!

    Back to this 1500:
    Did you notice the the side indicator near the door in the front fender?

    Ciao!
    Walter
     
  18. ColdWater

    ColdWater Formula Junior

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    Sure, it is a proper trafficator like they all once had. This one hasn't fallen completely back into the fender however, perhaps it is jammed by some debris. The clearances are relatively narrow.

    The car seems quite original, which actually makes it more difficult to identify. It is subsequent modifications such as front signal lights that make certain cars easier to identify. The front vent grills and absence of a hood scoop are somewhat indicative, but it could still be any one of at least thirty cars, most of which became lost during the '50s leaving no photographic record.
     
  19. Serenissma

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    Have you ever met Richard Crump?

    Magnus
     
  20. ColdWater

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    You're asking me ? I've not had the pleasure, only seen his books. Having just recently come back to cars of this era after more than thirty years doing other things, I'm just a neophyte who happened to acquire some interesting files along with a few cars.

    Don
     
  21. wbaeumer

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    Magnus,
    whom do you ask? If you meant me - no, I never met Crump. I spoke to him twice by phone regarding a restoration-project I had at that time.

    Ciao!
    Walter
     
  22. wbaeumer

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    Don,
    by the way -what is the carburator size with your 1500?

    Ciao!
    Walter
     
  23. ColdWater

    ColdWater Formula Junior

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    #324 ColdWater, Jul 12, 2009
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  24. wbaeumer

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    many thanks Don!

    Ciao!
    Walter
     

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