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...a real classic Maserati!

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  1. Maserati Blue

    Maserati Blue Formula Junior

    Dec 13, 2010
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    Very interesting history!

    I can't even imagine how hard it is to trace it back through the years!
     
  2. wbaeumer

    wbaeumer F1 Veteran
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    Mar 4, 2005
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    Hi Doug,
    I found important paperwork about your car.

    Please contact me via PM or directly:

    [email protected]

    Ciao!
    Walter
     
  3. Dosombres

    Dosombres Rookie

    Apr 16, 2011
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    Nice Cars.... who made the white one?

    Best Wishes
    Roger
     
  4. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

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    Sorry you drove 1 A6GCS Pininfarina Coupe today ... which is still bloody awesome, but lets not start calling replicas (no matter how well made) real cars please.

    Pete
     
  5. wbaeumer

    wbaeumer F1 Veteran
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    From that view - yes, you are right! However - it was great to drive both! Loved it!

    This replica is for sure the closest to the real thing incl. the corrected mistakes all former replicas from Italy and Argentina had!

    Ciao!
    Walter
     
  6. wbaeumer

    wbaeumer F1 Veteran
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    AUTO RESTAURO in Boves, Italy. Engine & gearbox by CAPRICORN, Germany.

    Ciao!
    Walter
     
  7. wbaeumer

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    #807 wbaeumer, Nov 26, 2011
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    I found this advert in R&T 3/1962, p. 92.

    Is this the missing link that the mysterious A6G cabriolet ended up in the USA, at that time with a Chevy V8 fitted? Seems that Bill Noon`s theory is corect he posted on the thread.

    Ciao!
    Walter
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  8. ColdWater

    ColdWater Formula Junior

    Aug 19, 2006
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    Walter,

    Nice find. I wish it did refer to #057, the only A6 1500 convertible (in which Bill was interested), but the delivery date for #057 was October 1948. Especially given the ad's reference to 1952, it seems more likely that it describes one of the more numerous Frua-bodied 2 liter A6G convertibles.

    Best regards,
    Don
     
  9. wbaeumer

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    #809 wbaeumer, Nov 26, 2011
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    Don,
    ...and this is the interesting aspect in this old ad - there was NO 4-seater Frua-cabriolet in the early `50s!
    None of the Maserati cabriolets in that period came with 4-seater specs!!

    Those 4-seaters from Frua came later in `56/`57!!

    I think this ad refers in fact to an A6G-1500 although the production year was not correctly stated. In my humble opinion the car was possibly sold to an Italian who later (`52??) settled in the USA and took the car with him or sold it to this R. J. Lavezzi who finally offered it for sale in R&T. Heaven knows. But it could be a link to the lost 1500-convertible.

    Ciao!
    Walter
     
  10. ColdWater

    ColdWater Formula Junior

    Aug 19, 2006
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    Walter,

    Very good point - the accuracy of "4-place" is likely greater than "'52", and #057 was definitely one of the three long-wheelbase A6 1500s.

    I suspect that the number of cars brought to the US by returning military was far greater than those brought by Italian immigrants. The soldiers had the purchasing power, and their inclination to subsequently drop in an American powertrain would also have been greater.

    Bill's remarks are in post #260 above. Close examination of the parts he mentions has yet to reveal any Pinin Farina body numbers, however, so this mystery will probably endure.

    Don
     
  11. Portenos

    Portenos Formula 3

    Aug 20, 2004
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    My old A6G Frua Spyder #2030 affectionately know as "The Little Guy" had what some would call back seats.
    Check the photos.
    This add is most likely referring to #2030 as it was kicking around Calif around that time and it did at one point have a chev engine and the incorrect rear end.
    Just my 2 Lira.
    Ciao,
    FGM
     
  12. wbaeumer

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    #812 wbaeumer, Nov 26, 2011
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    Frank,
    s**t - you are right (s. photo).

    Reg. the A6G-1500 cabriolet: "And the beat goes on!"

    Ciao!
    Walter
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  13. wbaeumer

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    #813 wbaeumer, Dec 4, 2011
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    Don,
    not sure if the convertible was made on a long-wheelbase-chassis.


    Ciao!
    Walter
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  14. ColdWater

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    Aug 19, 2006
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    Hi Walter,

    I am. You can see the extra length in the doors and distance between the door and rear wheelwell. Factory records as transcribed by Hofer indicate three long wheelbase cars: #057, a convertible; #059, a coupe, now in Japan; and #075, another convertible (my post 808 incorrectly stated that there was just one, although there is speculation that #057 might have been renumbered as #075 with the addition of a new motor). The extra length is quite apparent with #059.

    Best regards,
    Don
     
  15. wbaeumer

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    Don,
    OK, seems that I was not precise enough - I meant that the car on this photo was not made on a longer wheelbase. The car seemes very short to me. Also it clearly shows, that it was a 2-seater and not -as I suggested!- a 4-seater.

    Perhaps they made 2 cars...?

    Ciao!
    Walter
     
  16. ColdWater

    ColdWater Formula Junior

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    #816 ColdWater, Dec 4, 2011
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    Walter,

    Look again at my post #274 and I think you will change your mind. Especially look at the proportions of the interior panel of the door and the position of the pull handle. The door on the convertible is at least 15 cm longer than the more typical SWB coupe. This can also be seen in the attached photo of #059.

    Don
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  17. Tom Geiger

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    Congratulations Walter, the car is stunning and its sister soon will be, too.

    Tom
     
  18. wbaeumer

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    Tom,
    thanks - but your comment should be a little more precise....

    Ciao!
    Walter
     
  19. PG1964

    PG1964 Formula Junior

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    #819 PG1964, Dec 16, 2011
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    Sorry for my intrusion, but different lenses on the camera made different photos.
    I hope i was helpful.
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  20. wbaeumer

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    Yep, correct! The photo I posted was taken by a tele-lens while your image comes from a 50mm-lens and clearly sho the long wheelbase.

    Thanks for posting!


    Ciao!
    Walter
     
  21. PG1964

    PG1964 Formula Junior

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    #821 PG1964, Dec 19, 2011
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  22. wbaeumer

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    It was clearly not the prettiest car and so PF made it much better with their design development on the rear end of the later cars.

    But I much like the pop-up-lights and the sun-roof. Both are very rare -if not unique- features
    in 1947.

    Ciao!
    Walter
     
  23. Wolf

    Wolf Formula Junior

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    #823 Wolf, Dec 20, 2011
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    This picture shows the Italian president from 1955 untill 1962, Giovanni Gronchi, in a Maserati A6 Frua Spider on May 11 1955 during the reopening festivities of the Autodromo di Monza.

    Chassis number anyone?

    Regards

    Wolfi
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  24. Boudewijn

    Boudewijn F1 Rookie
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    May 15, 2003
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  25. Wolf

    Wolf Formula Junior

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    Five minutes. Cudos!

    Wolfi
     

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