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  1. Z0RR0

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    #1 Z0RR0, Dec 17, 2005
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    Since everyone seems to be having fun with stupid questions ... here's one for y'all. I don't have the answer. And it's annoying.

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  2. 2000YELLOW360

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    That's pretty cool. I believe that the squares are being added together in a different way than they are being divided up, and that results in the addiitional square. But I don't really know.
     
  3. PeterS

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    Piece of cake, as it's an optical illusion, powered by the outlines on the sections they move. First, they make two slices and rearrange things a bit. The blue slice creates two triangles, and the red slice creates two trapezoids. Rearrange as desired, and without any outlines to cover things up, this is what you get:

    See that white gap? It's a parallelogram with an area of 1, which is why 64 seemingly equals 65. Warning: geometry and trig follow. Start off noting that the two blue triangles are identical, as are the two red trapezoids. For the blue triangle: looking at the smallest angle, you know the adjacent side is 8, and the opposite side is 3.

    32 + 82 = x2, so the hypotenuse is 8.544 tan-1(3/8) = 20.556° For the red trapezoid: look at the slice that happened. Basically, it took a triangle (green) out of a square to make the red trapezoid.
    On that triangular piece, looking at the smallest angle, you know the adjacent side is 5, and the opposite side is 2. 22 + 52 = y2, so the hypotenuse is 5.385 tan-1(2/5) = 21.80°

    Given that it's the slice that was removed from the 5 x 5 square to result in the red trapezoid, you know the acute angle of the trapezoid and the length of the slanty side. 90° - 21.80° = 68.20°
    Length of slanty side = removed section hypotenuse = 5.385

    Now you know the acute angle of the parallelogram in the middle. 90° - 68.2° - 20.556° = 1.244°. So now you know everything you need to find the area of the parallelogram: opposite sides blue are 8.544, opposite sides red are 5.385, and the acute angles are 1.244°.

    Area of a parallelogram is base times height, so you need to draw a right triangle inside. The following diagram is totally skewed for clarity, but the values are accurate.

    See how easy this is! :)
     
  4. shiznut123

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    Its an illusion. When u do it precisely, there is a thin space between the diagonal line going left to right.
     
  5. PeterS

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    That's what I said, but explained the details of the math.
     
  6. shiznut123

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    ooops, i didn't see ur post =)
     
  7. PeterS

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    Of course you can't do it. All lawyers can add up is hours! :) :) :) :) :)
     
  8. AzN-TriNi

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    it's not an illusion, I think it has something to do with the slopes of the lines.. not sure how to explain, maybe someone else could
     
  9. PeterS

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    Did you not read post #3?
     
  10. jungathart

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    a very neat visual teaser.
    thanks for the explanations, Peter.
     
  11. UroTrash

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    check my profile for a similar one.
     
  12. jungathart

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    Yours is interesting as well. I see that the hypotenuse in the second arrangement describes an area which would be equal to the 1 box square left blank.
    :)
     
  13. 285ferrari

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    WTF???--Peter you lost me after piece of cake--I started to get hungry and lost all concentration..
     

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