A slightly larger vintage V-12 that we are used to

So would that (port side) make it the backwards one? I once read that both the engines kind of turned the "wrong way", making each of them torque against the controls if one or the other went out. Guess with about 1600 H.P. each it didn't really matter all that much...provided you kept up the airspeed.

 

DO want!!!!



ANd yes the port side is a counter rotating so as to reduce the "p- factor" and Tourqe left hand turning tendancies.

 

Yes - but not a vintage Ferrari V-12, Art.

Shouldn't this thread be moved to the 'Cars, Motorcycles, Boats and Planes' section where it really belongs ?

 

They didn't call those bad boys "Thunderboats" for nothing!

 

Don't show this to mk-e...he'll buy it and put it in his 308.

 

I saw this earlier today, fantastic engine,
we will see what it eventually goes for, but it is a pristine example of a 1710 engine, and definately a valuable engine if you have a suitable project.

traditionally Unlimited hydro,s which have used the Allison engine, (and lots have) sourced them from either old stock in the early years, or at the end via the tractor pull community. Which translates to less than airworthy Allisons. And in a hydro application they were run very hard, and failed often.
this led to a move by the airworthy community to rank hydo applications the same as tractor pulling, and they were very hesitant to deal with these groups.

I actually hope that this engine is purchased by someone who will put it back into an aircraft, as it is a bit of a waste to put it into a tractor or (less likely) a Hydro project.

I can always source an Allison for a Hydro, they are available, and they are far from airworthy, but this one is pristine, and belongs in a P40, P38, or perhaps a Yak.

Either way, I imagine price will dictate, and to be honest it has already gone beyond the Hydro price limits, hopefully the tractor guys as well.

 

Some years ago, I found parts from a crashed WW2 Lightning... Here is one of the parts after cleaning.
For me the P-38 is the "Flying Ferrari"... A beautifull aircraft.
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The first american plane to shoot down an enemy in WW2 (German 4 engine observation plane over the N. Atlantic)...

The highest scoring fighter in the Pacific theatre...

The first American plane to land on the Japanese mainland after the papers were signed.

Charles Lindberg is rumoured to have used one to shoot down a zero (against strict orders to not engage) while he was a civilian advisor in the south Pacific.

And, of course, the last flight of the famous lost author of "The little prince"...finally found just a few years ago submerged in the Med Sea off the coast of southern Spain.

 

While a great aircraft, the P38 wasn't by far the first American aircraft to shoot down an enemy aircraft in WW2, it shared credit for the first kill in the European theater, but that didn't happen until August of 1942, eight months into the war, the battle of Midway was several months before that and there were North Africa operations earlier in 1942.....

quote, from the history of the first fighter group...

The first aerial victory by a 1st Fighter Group pilot (and the first USAAF kill in the European Theater of Operations) occurred August 14, 1942, by a 27th Fighter Squadron pilot, 2nd Lt. Elza E. Shahan, stationed in Iceland, with the downing of an Fw 200C-3 Condor, a credit shared with a P-40C pilot of the 33rd Fighter Squadron.

 

This belongs in the right place which is an airplane. When I was in Reno for the air races I saw Glacier Girl. The P-38 rescued from under 200ft of ice and back in the air. She was in the paddock right behind that of Lady Jo, The P-51 that I had the pleasure of flying.

Sparky who posts here will get a PM from me and he will know the guys who will be interested. I would be interested also but only as an interim owner.

Then there are the aero engined cars. Jay Leno bought one a couple years back. A 1929 Rolls Royce "Speedwagon" was the way it was offered. A 1929 frame with a RR Merlin engine from a Spitfire matched to what was described as a "burstproof" Allison transmission. I wanted to buy it for sheer audacity but Jay got it first. Then I think his attention turned to his newer tank car. I believe that he will get around to it though.

Again, thanks Art.

 

Drat. Having trouble sizing pics.

 

Wouldn't a p40 from the AVG's Flying Tigers really be the first American plane to shoot down an enemy in WWII?


Darrell.

 

Yes but the AVG wasn't a part of the armed forces of the US.

Then there is the first in theatre. Of which the above mentioned action in which a P-38 and a P-40 shared the first aerial victory.