So what are the odds of finding some trashed WW2 Warbirds in South America ? I'd love to find an old warbird to restore, that would rule
Boy William things like that just dont happen anymore. All of the exported 51's have been scooped up. I would say that it would be rather cool if someone coukd make that happen, but....As to the question about the Mig-29 ride. Sure would like to do that but I got a TR instead. My son and I actually talked about it. Skip Holm has flown most of the Russan go fasts rates the 29 up at the top,after the SR-71 and a few others he has beat around in. He has been flying a Mig-21 2 seater here and I have been offered a ride in that. Think I'l give it to Bryan Crall...gotta take care of my Ferrari mech. As far as a ride for you in a 51, Jim Leeward of Ocalla takes riders and often dosent charge. About as close that he gets to you is the fly-in at Sun & Fun south of Orlando that happens in April every year. He is a good bud with Jack Roush and has done some racing and Roush crews for him at the Reno Air Races. I'l look around for someone closer to you. drive safe....ss Image Unavailable, Please Login
Here yo go William. Pix of Tom Camps newly restored Wildcat. Could have sworn this was a F-Chat site. Oh well, machines are machines, cars, planes, boats. Its all good. Image Unavailable, Please Login
How did he find a Wildcat in the first place? That has got to be a rare bird.... Is anyone building authentic construction replica WWII warbirds? After watching the program on the recovery and rebuild of the P-38 found in the ice, it doesn't seem like fabricating a new airframe would be all that much more work than what they did. It appeared that maybe 20% or so of the original plane remained.
Hi Pat. An outfit in New Zeland is turning out new P-40's. There are several here in the US. Prices are somewhere near 1M/copy. Just a little spendy for most folks I'd say. Several US outfits are building new P-51's also. All new except for the engine that is. 1.3M for those. Wildcats are just about to hens teeth status with only 9-10 flying and a few more going together. Toms came from a long line of owners, the last being one of the DuPonts. Took him 4 years to restore. Neat airplane but not real fast. He just barely can make the 300mph required qualifying speed for the Reno Air Races. He and my kid always race around for last place there.
Hey Sparky, as long as we're talking warbirds, here's a couple of tales for you. A Corvette buddy of mine had a neighbor whose father was a truck driver during WWII here in Arkansas. One day early in the war (early 1942 maybe?), he was driving his truck down the highway near some railroad tracks, next to a huge swampy area that covered several thousand acres. There was a large crowd of people and cars stopped up ahead on the side of the road. He thought it was a car wreck. As he stopped, he saw everybody standing at the side of the road looking out into the swamp. There in the swamp was a P-38 sitting in about 4 or 5 feet of water with the pilot standing on top of the plane. Pilot had some sort of trouble and had to ditch way out in the swamp. He was basically alright, but stranded in the middle of the swamp. Somebody eventually rounded up a small boat and went out to get the pilot. The incident was quickly forgotten during the turmoil of the war years. And my question always was: what happened to the plane? The guy telling this tale knew his aircraft and was certain that it was a P-38. The swamp would have been very difficult to retreive an aircraft from. And new airplanes were being built every hour, so why waste time dragging a wrecked one out of a swamp. Much of the swamp area is still swamp to this day. I often wonder, out among the scrub pines, cypress trees, snakes and occasional alligator, if there is some silvery aluminum buried among the muddy brush. The area drys out during the summer occasionally. I was never able to accurately determine an exact date or location of the incident. And speaking of aircraft "on ice" in Greenland, I have a copy of the USAF crash reports concerning an air rescue B-17 in Greenland that landed on the ice in 1948. It was never recovered as far as I know. It too may be buried under 1 to 200 feet of ice. As you can tell, I've done a bit of warbird research in my time.
I have been to the Lost Squadron museum in middlesboro, KY and seen the rescued P-38. it was really cool. http://thelostsquadron.com/
Horsefly. Cool story about p-38. Lots of stories out there...I chased after a P-51 in Lake Havisu, A P-40 in Clear lake, Ca., a B-25 up on the ridge behind Lake Berryessa, Ca, a P-39 in the same area and a P-61 Black Widdow on the Black Rock Desert in Nevada. Only the B-25 turned out to be anything. A lot of 60 yr old aluminum peices and some rusted eng stuff. Gotta keep looking...it is where you find it...
There was a P-39 in pieces in a hangar in Van Nuys as late as 1988 or 89 - no idea if it's still there
Congratulations on the TR!! It certainly is one of my favorite F-cars of all time, as well as the P-51 is my absolute favorite airplane from that era. Do you fly the Mustang to air shows around the country?
Hi Steve, Congratulations on the TR. Open up that exhaust so you can hear that flat 12 howl a little better. You know you want to, yes you do.......................................... I sent you a PM via Fchat info on various lifts for your TR. DJ
28 year old carburetors. Just too busy to pull them and rebuild right now. I may have someone else do the rebuild if I find someone anal enough. Makes me want to get a 512 TR as a backup.
Steve so whats the deal w the FAA and flying warbirds ? Can you use 1 as normal transport or only from 1 airshow to another airshow ?
Morning William. The Feds have clamped on down on warbird drivers. Anything over 600hp, retractable gear, constant speed prop, the pilot must get a letter of authirization, LOA, from a person authorized by the FAA to give them out. Inotherwords be safe while operating the aircraft(is that an oxymoron)? If the aircraft has a Limited Category Airworthiness Certificate they have no restrictions whatsoever where and when they may be operated. On the other hand, if aircraft is licensed in the Expermental catagory, then certan restrictions come into effect. ie, distance aircraft may be flown from home base. It you want to fly beyond that circle of ops., then the FAA must be notified inorder to issue an 'authorization' permit. Typical big brother stuff, but the LOA has more than likely saved a bunch of pilots ass's. Thats all I know about that junk. Fortunatly for me I had a few hundred hours in the T-6 when thay came out with the ruling. Seems to me 79 or 80 is when it came into effect. Most older warbirds have Limited catagory cert. Get going on the pilots lic william. You will love it. ss Image Unavailable, Please Login
Well go on out & get one. Hell, I'd take a 512 in poop brown if someone would give it to me, but would much prefer one of the more standard tones. Saw a dark blue one on one of the foreign sites....really cool....sign me up. On another note....your quote on the bottom op post....another version..."someday you eat the bear, someday the bear eats you". Let me know when you get the 512. ss Image Unavailable, Please Login
Steve, My son, Dana ( Spazzo ), told me about his meeting you on F-Chat and sent me the thread that shows your P-51 and it turned me on again so I thought that I would say hello from an old pilot. I didn't fly anything as big and powerful as Sparky but I know about P-51's from having a ride in " Worrybird " some years back when I was part of the 50th anniversary of the B-17 at Boeing. Beautiful shot of the two Mustangs at Reno ! I flew in airshows 35 years ago with a one- aileron clown act and got to know and to fly with many of the old crowd like Art Scholl and Joe Hughs. Dana flew my old airplane home with me in the back seat catching a little snooze now and then so he is an old airshow kid too. It would be nice to hear from you . I'm on F-chat, Northwest. Bob Parks
Hi Kevin. Black boxer is being fitted with a Larni exhaust in Brandon & Dales shop in Burlingame. I dont know who owns it only that it was sold by Brandon and new owner likes LOWD. God, you have two very cool Ferraris. I was thinking of a 521BBI but was a little more pricey than the TR. Silver 360...what can I say. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Howdy Bob. Must have seen that act more than a dozen times in the 70's & 80's. Flew a red, white & blue N3N-3 with a 300 lyc. and later a polished T-6 with green bands and Corry on the fin. Restored it in 1980 and hit the circuit in Moffett Field scheme with red bands. Was at Reno and watched Joe Hughes splatter his wing walker...very bad thing to see. Sortta slowed Joe down for a few years. Felt really bad for him. I'v found that if you hang around general aviation long enough, that Fate is actuality the Hunter, as Ernie Gann wrote. Know Jack Rose, daddy of Worry Bird, fairly well. Have not seen him for years though. BTW the 100 P-51 show that Lee Lauderback of Stalion 51 is putting on is a for sure deal. The second weekend of June 06 at Stead Field in Reno. You and DJ are more than welcome to hang around with us. Thanks for the contact Bob. Stay in touch. ss
Cool story on your 51, wow $1200 back then which is about $60k today and warbirds now sell in the millions. I have a smaller flying P-51 with a 68" wingspan that I am unfortunately too big to get in. My grandfather flew B-17s over Germany in WW2 and lived to tell about it, they were very fond of the little friends in the Mustangs and Thunderbolts. Also interesting on the Rolls Royce engine, I would have assumed they would be very reliable, much better power of course than the Allison motor in the early P51 but I would have thought more reliable as well. Congratulations on the TR as well, they are great cars, I have a flat 12 as well, the engines are bullet proof and one of the best built, reliable and longest lasting Ferrari motors made if well maintained.
Somewhere in all my collection of various items, I have one of the gauges out of the instrument panel of this P-51: http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=3353&key=0 The gauge, like everything else, was bent. Nobody walked away.