About to order 2015 458 want your opinions

I just ordered my 458 spider and was concerned also. But my dealer said that the change int he engine probably will probably first occur int he coupe... earliest probably in 2016 ( 2015's are out). Then the following year the spider ( usually a yr behind). So the earliest for the spider probably 2017. So I figured thats a long time to enjoy the spider. As far as resale, think of it this way...It the 458 will be the last naturally aspirated model ...The turbo will never sound as good as our spiders!

 

Jason, welcome!

I was in the same boat you were a few months back. I opted to order a 2015 458 as opposed to waiting for it's upcoming replacement or looking for a used older 458.

Here were my reasons:
- I'm a big sound guy and I'm not sure what the turbo aspect will be like.
- I've had a '13 Nissan GTR in the past and speed isn't quit everything as it once was. Funny how age works.
- It all depends on your timeline as well. I wanted a Ferrari sooner than later.
- Also for many of us who are fans of NA engines, I'd imagine values would hold up relatively well, provided it's well taken care of. It's not like Ferrari has another NA V8 option.

 

If this is your first ferrari and you opt to wait for the new one you could be waiting till at least 2017 and maybe 2018.

 

The new one will be turbocharged. Based on the reviews(complains) about the new turbocharged California, it won't sound that good anymore. I think the best for you is to get a used 458. There are many available in the market, pick one with good condition, good options and low mileage (below 10,000 kms). You can enjoy something as good as new with some discount. My car is already 9,000 kms and still taste like the first day I brought it home.

 

My story is similar to 49erDynasty above:

- Just sold my GTR and while turbos are fast, the car was pretty boring
- Sound is everything for a Ferrari which is why they have a patent on the NA high tone pitch. Turbos could ruin the magical sounds!
- My dealer told me that it would be 2 years after the car is released before he could order me one
- So why wait 3-4 years when you can order an awesome 2015 458 and enjoy it?
- Life is too short so I ordered a 2015 with arrival late September 2014

Don't wait IMO!

 

I'd buy used. Buying new near the end of production life is usually just asking to take an unnecessary beating on depreciation, unless of course you absolutely need a very specific spec.

Used Ferraris are no different than new ones. A good car with anything less than 10-15K miles is nearly indistinguishably different than one with delivery miles. Save the money and buy a nice used one, and then take that savings and put it towards the 458 replacement if you decide you want one.

 

You can order a new spider for less than used are selling for. Will take 4mo though.

For '13+ model year coupes you save about 15k going used, but new you can order a '15. I think the only coupe value play right now is geting '12's for <$240k, most have good spec and under 8k miles.

Honestly I think ordering a spider is the better option.

 

Order new spider or buy used 2012 or newer coupe.

 

I have my car (458 Italia) in the system and I am waiting for my allocation slot. My thought process was the same as yours, but I decided to go new now. Here is why:

- If I waited, A) I have no idea what it will look like; B) The general consensus is that it will be a turbo (truth is, until we know for certain, we can't even confirm that yet); C) I am a new buyer. After the unveiling, possibly at Geneva or Frankfurt in 2016, allocations will be given to previous customers first. They will probably not get their cars until early 2017. Once they get to me, I will likely not get a car until 2018.

- If I love the 458, I may just keep it forever. If I choose to get its successor, I will be able to enjoy the 458 for a few years and either keep it and get the new one, or trade it in and get the new one.

- I wanted new. Yes, I understand that there are many great used cars, but I wanted more than the car. For most people, used makes perfect sense. For me, I wanted to be a deep part of the Ferrari legacy. I want to know that they are making MY car in Maranello. I want to know that my name will be on the chassis in the Ferrari archives. I want to choose everything to my specifications, even though my choices are rather traditional. I will always know that I am part of the Ferrari legacy, and that is important to me. I want the entire DNA experience. For me, it is worth the expense.

- I was actually glad that I didn't get an quick allocation. I say this because choosing every detail is part of the joy. For me, there were certain things that I chose very quickly, while other options were a process of discovery. All in all, I have taken about 5 months to settle completely on my choices. So, take your time, dig deep into the options, ask a lot of questions, and get everything you want. You don't want to look at your custom car two years from now and say "I love it, but I really should have pulled the trigger on that one option".

- Having said this, I am still going to the Ferrari Atelier design showroom in New York. You don't need to do this, and it likely won't change any of my option choices, but, again, I wanted the whole experience.

Bottom line for me - I am not getting a car. I am entering a lifestyle and becoming part of the fabric of the Ferrari brand/history and all that comes with it. I hope this helps a bit.

 

Perhaps, but he'll get it with 6ft of snow and another 4-5 months of storage where he's from.

 

I agree..the experience is unique ordering your new ferrari in the "ferrari room." It was a no brainer for me. Ordering what you want new comes out cheaper than buying a used one. Plus you get the full maintenance and warranty. This will be my first ferrari and really looking forward to it. Test driving the italia leaves me with a passion to drive it again.. ... Can't wait to get it. I don't care if it comes in January, i'll still drive it as soon as I get it...Albert

 

I should hope that me having only leased a used 458 with 1500 miles on it, makes me part of the Ferrari legacy too. Im not sure how "deep" that takes me. Hopefully deep enough. I feel I am pretty deep, I may have to ask the company accountant.

 

Very well said. I agree with you completely. This is why all my 3 Fcars have been ordered new.

 

Who wants to wait 3-4 years, if you love the current 458, pull the trigger now.

I just got mine last week and there's no way I could have waited for 2017-2018 to get a car I may not even like as much as the current one.

And I echo the sentiments of those who say go for new, the buying experience, waiting for YOUR car while its built, adds so much to the whole ownership experience.

Good luck, not many Ferraris in Newfoundland!

 

I've been there 3 times, never even saw as much as a camaro, was a very small town.

Get the delivery timing firmed up with the dealer, don't want that baby showing up in the dead of winter.

 

I'd order the 458, either Italia or Speciale, have it my way and put in an order for the 458T or whatever the replacement is called. Then I'd have the car now and have options for the future.

 

Originally Posted by jaa1359 View Post
I have my car (458 Italia) in the system and I am waiting for my allocation slot. My thought process was the same as yours, but I decided to go new now. Here is why:

- If I waited, A) I have no idea what it will look like; B) The general consensus is that it will be a turbo (truth is, until we know for certain, we can't even confirm that yet); C) I am a new buyer. After the unveiling, possibly at Geneva or Frankfurt in 2016, allocations will be given to previous customers first. They will probably not get their cars until early 2017. Once they get to me, I will likely not get a car until 2018.

- If I love the 458, I may just keep it forever. If I choose to get its successor, I will be able to enjoy the 458 for a few years and either keep it and get the new one, or trade it in and get the new one.

- I wanted new. Yes, I understand that there are many great used cars, but I wanted more than the car. For most people, used makes perfect sense. For me, I wanted to be a deep part of the Ferrari legacy. I want to know that they are making MY car in Maranello. I want to know that my name will be on the chassis in the Ferrari archives. I want to choose everything to my specifications, even though my choices are rather traditional. I will always know that I am part of the Ferrari legacy, and that is important to me. I want the entire DNA experience. For me, it is worth the expense.

- I was actually glad that I didn't get an quick allocation. I say this because choosing every detail is part of the joy. For me, there were certain things that I chose very quickly, while other options were a process of discovery. All in all, I have taken about 5 months to settle completely on my choices. So, take your time, dig deep into the options, ask a lot of questions, and get everything you want. You don't want to look at your custom car two years from now and say "I love it, but I really should have pulled the trigger on that one option".

- Having said this, I am still going to the Ferrari Atelier design showroom in New York. You don't need to do this, and it likely won't change any of my option choices, but, again, I wanted the whole experience.

Bottom line for me - I am not getting a car. I am entering a lifestyle and becoming part of the fabric of the Ferrari brand/history and all that comes with it. I hope this helps a bit.

Not to speak for JAA1359 - but I don't think that is what he was saying. I read his point being - when you order a new car from the factory, it is different than just owning a car. The car is born out of your vision, for you and with your name on record within Ferrari archives. I totally get it. It's pretty cool, actually. For many, that doesn't matter. But I totally see why that makes the experience deeper.

 

Eben once the new cars are out it may be a coupl eof years before you can get an allocation....I may be worng but I know in my case there are many better Ferrari customers already at the front of that line....it will be years before the common folk (in Ferrari terms), like myself, get an allocation...

 

It's true, allocations can be difficult to obtain during the early stages of a new model release.

 

Exactly right, and that helps prop up the retained values of late model year cars from the just prior generation.