Academic honesty and corporate executives

Does he know Dubya?

Ask George Deutsch how he got his job as NASA!

 

I am pretty sure that psychology and theology aren't actually degrees anyway, rather just majors created to keep the losers in one place while the real talent studies engineering, chemistry, math, etc, etc.

 

Who really cares anyways? If he has proven to be doing a good job, it's all that matters after all ...

 

Does this mean that my Electrical Engineering Degree (verifiable) makes me a better candidate to run Radio Shack than this guy? Where do I sign up.....

 

There is a US senator who said he graduated from Harvard, but he really graduated from a state school I think.

 

Agree with Zorro...who cares what degree anyone has if they do a good job..

Personally Ive always felt college degrees are for people who want to have high paying jobs... if you want to be really wealthy they dont seem to matter.

Myself and my three wealthiest friends are all high school drop outs.

Just my $.02

 

In most situations, you don't get the chance to prove you CAN do the job until you're hired/appointed by someone else. That means you have to put a resume/background together to make yourself look qualified in the eyes of another person before you get your shot.

 

Buy low and sell high! Other than that WGAF? I wouldn't invite him to dinner in either case anyway.

 

To be honest Ive never checked on ANY of my employees educational history..what I DO check on is previous performance and reputation in their industry.

If I hire someone young enough that they dont have a previous performance history their position is so low on the ladder that it doesnt matter what their educational background was..they could have a PHD but they're starting on the bottom and need to prove themselves regardless.

This guy at RS probably started on the ground floor somewhere and lied about his education to get 'in'...as long as he proved himself performance-wise ( which I think he probably did) it doesnt matter.

There are ethics in business but lying about ones education to me isnt one IF you can do the job. Ive always followed a rule about lying...if your lie is hurtful to someone or something then you shouldnt do it..if its not then go for it.

When I was 17 I lied to a movie producer about my age and my qualifications to get my first job. He never checked and I did an exceptional job and my career skyrocketed from there. If I didnt have the confidence/arrogance to lie to get in the door and would have gone to college I would have been years behind where I am today.

Just my $.02

 

Tell that to my aunt! She spent 6yrs and over 60k which she still owes to the government to get a degree in child psychology or some crap with another degree in religious studies or something. She makes what most people with a high school degree make! Not to mention her job is insignificant. The IT/computer science majors, engineers, chemists, physicists etc. do far more for society and themselves in my opinion.

They should fire him and find someone qualified and honest. This kind of guy is the guy who will rip off a company and practice bad business. Look at albertson's and their most recent leader? He ran the company into the ground, sold it and took off with a ton of cash!

 

Actually, this is a great out for Radioshack: now they can say, "Well, we were duped and our CEO lied. THAT is why our stores suck!"

 

And cut a hole in his golden parachute.

 

My company must be a strange one, we check EVERYTHING on a resume before they were hired. We confirm all old employment, education, and felony convictions. I've had 2 potential new hires get shot down in the last 12 months because of exaggerations.

 

Edmondson said he took responsibility for errors in the resume. He added that he still believes he earned one of the degrees but cannot document it.

His Theology degree? (oops, sliding into P&R)

 

I agree with you (to an extent) when you say if it doesn't hurt anyone then it isn't a big deal. However, people have different values and live by different moral codes and some people will make more of a fuss about lying than others.

People faking medical degrees and ending up maiming or killing patients...that's about a worst case scenario.

If after decades in the workforce, it was found that a successful businessman who has made millions/billions stretched the truth a bit as to what he did academically in his early 20s... that doesn't bother me so much. I believe those who would do this even after they are very successful is to appease the academic elitists and 'intelligensia' who might resist doing business with him because he is 'uneducated.'

 

How the hell can you not be able to verify a degree??? Where was the degree from diplomamill.com?????? or crackerjack U???

 

You should be able to verify a degree, and I think any reputable headhunter will do it for you. The headhunter knows you can come back on them, so they're pretty careful in their screening process.

Of course, if a guy starts at the bottom and works his way up, it may have been overlooked at the beginning and never corrected.

 

BINGO, he lied to beat an unfair and prejudicial system.

RE; honesty, show me an honest CEO and I'll show you my new F40LM.

 

I loved that comment, really made me laugh.

You guessed it - I've got a Psychology degree. (I was going into Law Enforcement and figured it would probably be among the most appropriate for the field.) Circumstances changed, however, and I now work for an Aerospace company - strangely enough, I make more than many of the Engineers I went to school with.

Go figure. Losers must get lucky, eh?

JM

 

His Theology degree came from FU. Faith University. (oops, slipped into P&R, sorry)

 

RadioShack- you've got questions- we've got answers.

They might turn out to be outright lies.

He lied- he got caught- he should offfer resignation for violating basic ethics.

If he's done a bang up job- they won't accept his resignation. If they don't trust him anymore the board will let him go.

Last time I went to RS they offered me a HD Video cable for $99. Drove across the street and bought at Wally world for $40.

 

RadioShack (RSH : radioshack corp com-Last: 19.08-1.67-8.05%)
4:00pm 02/17/2006
said Monday that CEO David Edmondson has resigned and the board has named Claire Babrowski, who most recently served as executive vice president and chief operating officer, as acting CEO. Edmondson admitted last week that he lied about his educational background. The company has said it will hire a law firm to investigate the matter. RadioShack on Friday posted a 62% drop in fourth-quarter net income and announced a sweeping restructuring plan that could include closing up to 10% of its stores.

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So he lied about his education and the company is doing poor. Don't let the door hit ya.

Sad but his contract probably gives him plenty of money to retire with. Maybe he'll go back to school.