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Accurate production numbers?

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  1. Diablo_4_Ever

    Diablo_4_Ever Formula Junior

    Nov 9, 2004
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    350 GT (costruiti 135 esemplari dal 1964 al 1967)
    400 GT (costruiti 23 esemplari dal 1965 al 1966)
    400 GT 2+2 (costruiti 250 esemplari dal 1966 al 1968)
    P 400 Miura (costruiti 275 esemplari dal 1966 al 1969)
    P 400 Miura S (costruiti 338 esemplari dal 1968 al 1971)
    P 400 Miura SV (costruiti 150 esemplari dal 1971 al 1973)
    Espada S 1 (costruiti 176 esemplari dal 1968 al 1969)
    Espada S 2 (costruiti 578 esemplari dal 1969 al 1972)
    Espada S 3 (costruiti 472 esemplari dal 1972 al 1978)
    Islero 400 GT (costruiti 155 esemplari dal 1968 al 1969)
    Islero 400 GTS (costruiti 75 esemplari nel 1969)
    Jarama 400 GT (costruiti 177 esemplari dal 1970 al 1973)
    Jarama 400 GTS (costruiti 150 esemplari dal 1973 al 1976)
    Urraco P 111 (costruiti 21 esemplari dal 1974 al 1976)
    Urraco P 200 (costruiti 66 esemplari dal 1975 al 1977)
    Urraco P 250 (costruiti 520 esemplari dal 1972 al 1976)
    Urraco P 300 (costruiti 205 esemplari dal 1975 al 1979)
    P 118 Silhouette (costruiti 55 esemplari dal 1976 al 1979)
    Countach LP 500 (costruito 1 esemplare nel 1971)
    Countach LP 400 (costruiti 157 esemplari dal 1974 al 1978)
    Countach LP 400 S (costruiti 237 esemplari dal 1978 al 1982)
    Countach LP 5000 S (costruiti 321 esemplari dal 1982 al 1985)
    Countach LP 5000 S QV (costruiti 610 esemplari dal 1985 al 1988)
    Countach Anniversario 25 th (costruiti 657 esemplari dal 1988 al 1990)
    LM 002 (costruiti 301 esemplari dal 1986 al 1993)
    Jalpa P 350 (costruiti 301 esemplari dal 1982 al 1988)
    Diablo 2wd (costruiti 873 esemplari dal 1990 al 1994)
    Diablo GT (costruiti 80 esemplari dal 1999 al 2000)
    Diablo GTR (costruiti 30 esemplari nel 2000)
    Diablo VT Roadster (costruiti 466 esemplari dal 1996 al 2000)
    Diablo SE30 (costruiti 150 esemplari dal 1993 al 1997)
    Diablo SV (costruiti 346 esemplari dal 1995 al 1999)
    Diablo SVR (costruiti 31 esemplari nel 1996)
    Diablo VT (costruiti 529 esemplari dal 1993 al 1999)
    Diablo 6.0 (costruiti 260 esemplari dal 2000 al 2001)
    Diablo 6.0 SE (costruiti 42 esemplari nel 2001)
     
  2. FredParoutaud

    FredParoutaud Formula 3

    Jun 9, 2004
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    As far as the 350GT/400GT/400GT 2+2 production numbers, my guess is that they are "ballpark" ok, but not actually accurate.

    Probably nobody knows the exact numbers because the definition of a "400GT Interim" is pretty much up in the air. A lot of 350s had 400 motors and trannys put in them -- both by the factory and by private owners -- but that doesn't make them official interims... yet often they are counted in those numbers.

    There are other problems with trying to come up with accurate numbers. So let's just say the numbers you have for the 350/400s are approximate, but not accurate.

    Fred
     
  3. EMILIO

    EMILIO F1 Veteran

    Feb 23, 2006
    6,854
    Italia
    jalpa is wrong: over 400 built
     
  4. topcarbon

    topcarbon F1 Rookie

    Nov 3, 2006
    2,605
    these numbers are bs.

    Accurate? not
     
  5. 2NA

    2NA F1 World Champ
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    Dec 29, 2006
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    Jalpa + Silhouette = 405. Perhaps this is closer to the 411 I've seen reported.

    It is curious that accurate production numbers for something as substantial and serial-numbered as an automobile can be so challenging.
     
  6. EMILIO

    EMILIO F1 Veteran

    Feb 23, 2006
    6,854
    Italia
    no: jalpa alone are over 400
     
  7. SDChris

    SDChris Formula 3

    Mar 8, 2006
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    Best I have for the US cars! But I have been told there are a couple more..so the number is closer to 147-150..

    37 - Yellow & Pearl Yellow
    30 - Titanium & Dark Grey
    22 - Pearl Orange
    17 - Black
    15 - Red & Rosso Vik
    10 - Blue
    5 - Purple
    1 - Purple Grey
    1 - Dark Green
    1 - White

    For Diablos 6.0's total production for the world we have 339 (est.) and 44 SE's (est)
     
  8. rush109

    rush109 F1 Veteran

    May 26, 2005
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    interesting thread!
     
  9. What is the source for these numbers?
     
  10. roytoy2003

    roytoy2003 F1 Veteran

    Jul 30, 2004
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    For USA also add the SE units I have #13, #15 and #19 2 brown and one gold...I know of at least three others two in gold and one in Brown in the USA.
     
  11. FredParoutaud

    FredParoutaud Formula 3

    Jun 9, 2004
    1,455
    Well, I do know the source for the following numbers... the factory (in 2005):

    >>
    On the occasion of the celebrations for its 40th anniversary,
    Automobili Lamborghini has therefore decided, as a small additional
    gift to all its loyal customers and enthusiasts, to put things right
    once and for all. A true Historical Archive has therefore been
    painstakingly created – in addition to the Registro Lamborghini – to
    collect production sheets of all `series' Lamborghinis produced since
    1963 (prototypes and one-offs excluded for obvious reasons), and
    trace the full production history.

    The following database shows what is therefore to be considered the
    `definitive' list of the cars produced in Sant'Agata since 1963, as
    officially verified and deliberated by Automobili Lamborghini.

    MODELLO UNITÀ PRODOTTE
    350 GTV 1
    350 GT 135
    3500 GTZ 2
    350 GTS 2
    400 GT 2+2 250
    400 GT 2p. 23
    Miura P400 275
    Miura P400S 338
    Miura SV 150
    Jslero 155
    Jslero S 70
    Espada 400 GT Serie I 176
    Espada 400 GTE Serie II 578
    Espada 400 GTS Serie III 472
    Jarama 400 GT 177
    Jarama 400 GTS 150
    Silhouette 54
    Urraco P300 203
    Urraco P200 71
    Urraco P250 275
    Urraco P250S 246
    Jalpa 350 420
    Countach LP 400 152
     
  12. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

    May 23, 2006
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    The factory have never been wrong.

    Joe
    www.joesackey.com
     
  13. FredParoutaud

    FredParoutaud Formula 3

    Jun 9, 2004
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    Joe, I think you could refute the factory numbers, but you'd have to have the physical cars all together, which of course is never going to happen.

    I think contemporary mistakes were made -- by factory record keeping, number stamping, etc -- and other mistakes were made when this list was compiled. It was a "best effort" -- by the factory, but certainly not perfect. (I notice right away one list above says 70 isleros S and the other 75...something I have no idea about, but I do know for a fact -- from Lou Herrin -- that 2 Isleros were accidently given the same chassis number!)

    I'll tell you what I'd love to see from the factory is the actual chassis numbers of those 23 interims. THAT ... would be interesting :)

    Cheers,

    Fred
     
  14. ralfabco

    ralfabco Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I have a factory Lamborghini manual with a mistake. lol.
     
  15. EMILIO

    EMILIO F1 Veteran

    Feb 23, 2006
    6,854
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    i would venture to say inofs are not "always" correct from factory
     
  16. 2NA

    2NA F1 World Champ
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    More common than you'd imagine.

    For example: Countach Owners Manual with engine technical specifications for a Miura :(
     
  17. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

    May 23, 2006
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    Ah the charm of Lamborghini... in the text from my book there is a paragraph that recounts the story of the USA technical director (told to me directly by him) being thrown out of Ferruccio Lamborghini's office after he suggested to him that the manuals weren't good enough! Obviously Ferruccio dint think much of such minor details :)

    Joe
    www.joesackey.com
     
  18. charliebronson

    charliebronson Formula 3

    Dec 5, 2004
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    Charliebronson
    Wow,

    I had no idea the 6.0 production was in such low numbers. What a truly desirable car. Im wondering what the production number will be for the lp640.

    -Peter Oh
     
  19. FredParoutaud

    FredParoutaud Formula 3

    Jun 9, 2004
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    Good enough??? Joe, I've heard it was more than that.

    It was "NO MANUAL...PERIOD"

    You talking about Jack Robbins?

    Fred
     
  20. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

    May 23, 2006
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    LOL. Cmon Fred youre stretching it bit... Ask Jack again!

    Jack simply pointed out the deficiencies in the Miura P400 owner's manual and asked why they couldn't have something comparable to what Porsche had. Ferruccio went ballistic, shooing him out of his office.
    However, the next day Ferruccio got over it and turned on the charm by taking Jack to Lunch.

    Yes, there WAS a P400 manual in 1968 - of sorts...

    Joe
    www.joesackey.com
     
  21. italiancars

    italiancars F1 Rookie

    Apr 18, 2004
    3,444
    Hershey, PA
    Try and find something related to the Islero sometime. Use whatever is available from a 400 GT and figure out what doesn't match.
     
  22. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

    May 23, 2006
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    Good formula...

    Joe
    www.joesackey.com
     
  23. Smurf

    Smurf Formula 3

    I learned in my line of business that acurate and Italy can not be used in the same sentence...
     
  24. ralfabco

    ralfabco Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Mar 1, 2002
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    Donde esta Emilio ?
     
  25. topcarbon

    topcarbon F1 Rookie

    Nov 3, 2006
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    donde or dove?
     

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