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Advice on Tyres

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by 100badboy100, Oct 1, 2016.

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  1. 100badboy100

    100badboy100 Formula Junior
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    Hi

    I have just ordered a 488 GTB ! And I was looking for any advice on what tyres I should spec for the car.

    I live in the U.K. And the car will be used on the street only and no track days.

    Be good to get your advice.

    Regards

    Michael
     
  2. 997usa

    997usa Formula Junior

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    Why not just drive the car with the michelins that it comes standard with? Not worth the money to upgrade if you are not tracking.


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  3. Caeruleus11

    Caeruleus11 F1 World Champ
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    If its like the 458 then the factory might fit either Pirelli P-Zero or Michelin Pilot Super Sport. The factory will try to honor a request. My advice is to request the Michelin PSS.

    And, Congratulations on the 488!!
     
  4. tobewiser

    tobewiser Formula Junior

    Dec 23, 2015
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    If your 488 comes with the Michelin SS, then it probably is the best for practical day to day driving. P Zero's are okay but they don't last as long as the Michelin and are not quite as quiet or 'sticky.' In case your Michelin request does not come through from the factory, your dealer usually will honor it by swapping out a new set for you. It's only a good customer relation thing to do...what's $2000 after you spend $300K on a 488?

    In case you track, P Zero Trofeo is probably the best but they are like skates on ice when it comes to wet pavements but stick like glue on dry tracks.
     
  5. Caeruleus11

    Caeruleus11 F1 World Champ
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    Ive never heard of K3... Usually K1 is lower tread and K2 has a deeper tread. What's K3?
     
  6. 100badboy100

    100badboy100 Formula Junior
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    Michelin's it is then!

    Thank you for your help
     
  7. rocketman

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    I was told that most are coming through with MPSS but there are some that will have the Pirelli's.
    I was also told that by putting in a special request it could delay the order.
     
  8. DK308

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    K1, K2 and K3 has nothing to do with tread depth. Like with Porsche N0, N1. N2 etc. the number just denotes how "new" the tyres are. As there are already K1 and K2 spec tyres for the FF and Cali in the 245/35R20 size, all with the same speed and weight rating, the next incarnation will be the K3. They then name both the front and rear K3 to denote it's a matching set, despite the K3 305/30R20 being the only K spec MPSS tyre in that size. That's also why the MPSS tyres for the F12 are called K2. While there are only one K spec MPSS tyre available in 255/35R20, with the introduction of the F12, there are now two K spec 315/35R20 MPSS tyres. If the F12 had ran a different weight or speed rating compared to the 599GTO on the rears, they would both have been K1. That's why both the rears for the FF and 458 are called K1 - same size but different weight rating as one is an SL and the other an XL.

    As for the OP's question?

    MPSS hands down. That's what we use and I've driven 458's with PZero's. There are no upsides to the PZero. And unless it's pretty damn cold, I completely fail to see where the PZero should be more sticky. Above 10 degree C. I find the MPSS to be better in any condition. Noise, wet, dry, in the corners, wear and directional stability. Oh, and there have been quite a few cases of people complaining of PZero tyres cracking in the sidewalls after brief periods of time and flat spotting when sitting for short'ish periods of time. I've experienced both of the latter when I got my DD 991 with PZero tyres.

    And if someone tells you to get Pirelli because you need Italian tyres on an Italian car? Well Pirellis is actually Chinese now and have been for a few years;)
     
  9. leead1

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    Michelin has the best roundness so the tires track well and perform well. Engineers call this tir or total internal roundness. These tires have a soft rubber compound so they hold the road better so you can take tight turns at speed with more confidence. The down side is they do not last as long before you need replacement.

    I use hem on all of my cars if they are available for the model

    best

    Lee
     
  10. rmitchell248

    rmitchell248 Formula 3

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    Stock tires are okay pfor the street but really lack on the track Get a trofeo R set on right away if you want the best performance. Some don't like it in the rain. I've had no issues even in the heaviest down pours but you should consider that of you're in the rain a lot.
     
  11. Rcktrod

    Rcktrod F1 Rookie

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    Michelin Pilot Super Sport are great all around tires. You can always upgrade to Michelin Cup Two's if you decide that you want a tire with more traction for the track and spirited street drives.
     
  12. 100badboy100

    100badboy100 Formula Junior
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    Thank you everyone I'm definately going to ensure the car is specked with the michelins...

    So excited about getting my car!
     
  13. Caeruleus11

    Caeruleus11 F1 World Champ
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    Thanks guys for the information. I've long known about the roundness from Michelin. The Pirelli have a much higher incidence of being out of round in my experience and thus higher road force which is really annoying to me.
     
  14. ohared

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    The Ferrari homologated the Michelin Pilot Super Sport (MPSS) for the 488 GTB and Spider is getting quite old technology now.

    245/35 ZR20 (95Y) XL K3
    305/30 ZR20 (103Y) XL K3

    BMW homologated the Michelin Pilot Super Sport 4S* for the M4 competition with a super trick compound combination across the treads.

    Do Ferrari ever update their homologated tyre choices for the older cars
    For example, the Michelin Pilot Super Sport 4S is not available as a "K" spec tyre for the 488.
     
  15. 3POINT8

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    Michelins and throw pirellis in the dumpster
     
  16. xBox

    xBox Formula Junior

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    Personally, I had never understood the difference between OE spec tyres and regular.

    This guys channel is very informative...

     

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