Aint life a MOFO!!!

Since we are all on here so much and share alot I hope you don't mind me sharing my latest family news. Just found out lastnight that my Aunt Myra was diagnosed with cancer yesterday and today we will findout the stage it is in, it is in several of her organs already. My Aunt Myra is the youngest of 5 girls and the cool aunt I guess you could say. My Aunt Maxine died of cancer 5yr's ago and my Uncle Maurice who is also a law enforcement officer has been battling his cancer for 2yr's now but it just keeps spreading.

All three of these family members were/are the biggest influence on me and my brothers lives (other than mom) growing up. When will we get some good news???

Thanks for listening,
tex

 

My Mother recently passed away of lung cancer. Not to suggest that her experience will be the same at all, but from the date of diagnosis to her passing was under ten weeks. Not much time to deal with it.

But, for her the decision was easy in a way: treatment would not have helped. So, she didn't undergo the debilitating and exhausting chemo and radiation treatments which would have sapped the life right out of her. But, she saw the people in her oncologist's office in treatment, and they were not looking too happy. Good to be alive, but at what cost?

Anyway, I'm sorry to hear your news. It sucks. And, it just goes to show how fragile life is and how fast it can turn on us.

Thoughts are with her and your family.

CW

 

Heavy Sigh... Lost a mother to Cancer less than month ago and will (barring a miracle) lose a sibling in the next 6 months or so.

Every member of my immediate family who has passed has died of cancer... I think I'm going to order the steak and fries more often. ;-/

 

Thoughts are with you guys. My sister just before this past Christmas announced she has breast cancer. Mastectomy and now going through chemotherapy.

 

My heart felt prayers to those whose replied and have recently lost a family member to cancer. Ya know it's kinda odd in the sense that my mom will be 70 next month and still works fulltime (way too much energy) lives alone in that big two-story house with huge yards since I moved away. Although my Aunt Myra gives me the insider scoop that my mom does not she is healthy as a horse ie no diseases. My mom is the oldest of 9 kids and practically raised them all so maybe it is her worrying about them and me and my brother that keeps her going?!?!?

In June of '09 I thought I was having a stroke but it was only a slight case of hypertension caused by a dietary issue (too much sodium intake and not enough expulsion). I went to the emergency room and was released with a clean bill of health ie clear heart,lung's etc etc and I lived a party life for 20+yr's. So I find it rather perplexing that people such as myself might live too be 100 when people who have lived a more righteous life draw the short straw. One of lifes great mystery's right?

 

If you only knew that cancer can be cured easily and quickly... but then again, cancer is big business for oncologists and Big Pharma.

Chemo and radiation is a slow and painful death. People die quicker from chemo and radiation than from cancer.

In fact cancer, is not a disease, it's your body telling you that you are doing something wrong to your body. This can be from eating the wrong food (junk food like McDonald's, Burger King, KFC, Wendy's etc), smoking, eating a meat and dairy rich diet, being in close contact with carcinogens found in everyday foods such as sodium nitrates, fluoridated water, genetically modified foods, lack of exercise, lack of sunshine (vitamin D deficiency) and much, much more.

Women who do mammograms for cancer screening are in fact exposing themselves to cancerous radiation which actually causes breast cancer.

They have proved that prostate cancer screening for men is useless.

http://www.naturalnews.com/031950_prostate_cancer_screening.html
http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.d1539

In USA they don't even label which foods are GMO, GMOs make animals and people sterile and cause cancer and obesity.
Just look at the Average American, obese and sick.


You people who put faith into chemotherapy and radiation to treat cancer are playing with death. You are much better off refusing the treatment, cut out all meat and dairy, go vegetarian and start munching away apricot kernels, apple seeds and other rich sources of vitamin B17.

The war on cancer = FAKE (chemotherapy, radiation and drugs that cancer patients take are slowly poisoning the human body, in most cases people who do not take the conventional treatments live LONGER than those treated with chemo. Cancer is a modern age disease brought on by such factors as poor diet high in sugar, meat, dairy, processed foods, lack of exercise, stress, lack of sleep and environmental factors. Hippocrates said "Let thy food be your medicine and let thy medicine be your food"!

The cancer cure has been found many decades ago, it's in your garden and on your plate, but you dont care because to you, that hot dog tastes much better than a garden salad with pine nuts.

But there is no money for Big Pharma, the American Medical Association and The Cancer Institute in vegetables and fruit... each chemo patient is worth around $500,000 to these companies so off to the doc you go to get a nice script for some drooogz that relieve your symptoms, never cure you. After all, the local GP will never sit down and tell you, hit the gym, avoid aspartame, cut down on fluoride and MSG, quit going to Maccas... heck that's what the industry is based on.

PS diabetes type 2 is cured and reversed by a change in diet and moderate exercise, but there are so many fat people in the world that they cant be bothered "give me a quick fix pill right now, so I can get back to watching Oprah eating Doritos."

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtjvbE9w58A&feature=related[/ame]

PPS FDA has banned every natural cancer cure in the past so what you read on here will not be in your mainstream newspaper, on the radio or on TV news.

 

I think there is another forum/thread for replies such as your's so I'll just twist it around and say thanks for your thoughts.

 

Please put more effort next time.

 

Effort into what?? This is my thread not your's so please don't piss on it.

 

Piss on it? I gave you clear answers how to CURE cancer, you say I piss on it?

 

My first reaction to your post is to tell you how incredibly insensitive it is to tell of incredulous cancer cures to a group of people whom are going through unimaginable grief because of cancer... But I know you really believe what you are saying so it would be unreasonable for me to say this. I would do anything to ensure a positive outcome for my sister.

Where alternative cancer treatment leaves me is here, this is the question I am putting to you:

Do you really believe, as big as the global medical community is, that if a valid path to alternative successful cancer treatment existed it would not be uncovered? I believe we do live in a financially reductionist world but cannot believe that successful alternative treatments are covered up by big pharma. It's akin to keeping a secret that the moon landings were all a hoax.

 

I really hope you will accept this as it is intended. Please, if you have the slightest decency and compassion for others just drop your current path of posting. Surely you can see how insulting it appears.

Actually he asked you not to piss on it. (Big Difference)


I hope you really intended to try and help but obviously that went wrong. I see this OP as someone looking for a little support from those that may have experienced similar circumstances in their family’s lives. Not a thread about lets trash cancer victims because they did it to themselves and don’t want to try to be cured.
This is honestly just a plea for you to let it go. The last thing I want to do is further this discussion when someone appears to just looking for a little empathy.

 

Hi mate,

I know the pain, trauma and grief you and other people in this thread are going through, but trust me, I am 100% behind what I say when I state that alternative cancer treatments actually cure cancer.

I'll throw a question back at you.

Who do you think profits directly from cancer and what would happen if people suddenly stopped smoking, eating junk foods full of processed fats, refined sugars and salts, started exercising and started eating raw, natural foods the way nature intended?

The answer is, the Cancer Society makes big money from this modern age disease which kills more and more people in our age. Cancer was quiet rare even as far as 100 years ago.
But back then our diet was much different.


I'll also ask you another question, how come there are so many super foods out there that seem to either cure, stop or prevent cancer? Green tea, coffee, tomatoes, cabbage, cocao, reishi, maetaki and shiitake mushrooms, kale, flax seeds, blueberries, turmeric, the list goes on. Maybe because food IS our real medicine and not the blue and red pills that the DOC prescribes us?

When a patient visits a DR with a heart problem, the MD usually prescribes some type of drug and after a few minutes the patient is released from the clinic.

If a naturapath or homeopath had the exact same patient, they would examine the patient's diet, lifestyle and fluids intake. Now you tell me what is more important for good health, drugs or food and lifestyle?

If doctors were recommending their patients to eat more organic vegies, cut out processed sugar and refined salts, do more exercises, cut out meat and dairy then the allopathic doctors and the cancer society would go broke. What would happen with all the expensive machinery for x rays, chemo and other radiation treatments? They need that money to keep the system afloat.

Do you remember when medical doctors used to do advertising and were promoting cigarettes and smoking. Some even claimed that a pack of cigarettes a day keeps lung cancer away!

There is more, click the link below.
http://www.naturalnews.com/index-Badvertising.html

Also watch this movie about nitrilosides and vitamin b17. I've been eating up to 10 apple seeds and 10 apricot kernels everyday for the last 4 months and have never been feeling great! I have it for breakfast with my oats and in the evening with tea.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7957358347594988246#

Also please watch this:

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And this:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J4JLT05siM[/ame]


It's up to you to believe what you like, but when it comes to cancer, I will steer clear from conventional modern medicine that uses toxic slow death aka chemo and radiation to "treat" cancer. Give me apricot kernels and green tea any day to treat and cure cancer.

 

My sincere apologies if I offended anyone, it wasn't my intention at all.

 

Our prayers are with your family. Awhile back, I posted a thread regarding a close friend of mine and war veteren with three kids who was battling stage 3 Non Hodgkins lymphoma and it was aggressive. He is now in full remission. G&d works in mysterious ways and miracles do happen. In times like these it is easy to focus on the worst of possible outcomes. Do the opposite. Be thankful for every day you have with them, keep your spirits up, and theirs too. There are no certainties in life and there are two sides to every statistic. I attribute my friend's success, not only to the excellent medical care he received, but to his faith and his determination to win his battle. Be the best ally your family has, which of course, we all know you will.

 

Thank you I am sure Gregg appreciated this. Class response I hope I did not offend either.

+1

 

I'm always leery and skeptical of cure-alls and conspiracy theories, but who knows? And, when you're staring down the barrel of a gun, people might try things they wouldn't otherwise. I'm sure there are miraculous stories of recovery, but they're most likely the exception to the rule. Cancer's pervasive, relentless and a tough nut to crack. Modern medicine is making *some* progress with various kinds of cancer, but in lung cancer, it's negligible. They've raised the average life expectancy in 20 years from maybe 12 months to 16 months. While 33% sounds like a big increase, when the starting number is so small, it's almost not meaningful. And, to get those few additional months, the treatments are enough to make you wonder if it was the right thing to do.

There is new research that indicates palliative care, in conjunction with treatment, will extend the average life expectancy somewhat, but again it's not meaningfully.

That said, we're still talking about a terrible course of treatment options that often deliver poor results. So, if there's a legitimate alternative, it's always worth a try. That said, my Mother's oncologist literally wrote the book. And, he couldn't offer much to her. If he believed in it, and there were research that established spinach and pine nuts as the answer, I'd think he would have told her.

BTW, I doubt there'd be any harm in TRYING an alternative in conjunction with treatment.

CW

 

Ruski and I are cool and I realize he was venting his frustrations. I just reminded him (and thank you for your kind pm Ruski) I just wanted this thread to be a venting area for those who are dealing with this issue.

Thanks everyone for your kind words of support.

Best,
Gregg

 

My best friend's uncle just over 50 years old was diagnosed with cancer several years ago, he decided to go the holistic way to avoid chemo and try the natural cancer cures. The doctors told him that if he does that instead of chemo then his wife and child would lose his pension payments if he died.

He was frightened and basically bullied into getting chemo treatments, so a few years later my friend's uncle is dead. Chemotherapy didn't work and he didnt try the natural treatments because he was pushed (bullied) for financial reasons to use conventional methods of "treatment".

Actually if you ask an oncologist how much longer they will live because of chemo or radiation treatments, they will say something like "3% longer" or "a few more months or a year." They fail to say that a few extra months after chemo is worse than death itself, because chemo is a horrible toxin that destroys the body inside out.

If I ever was diagnosed with cancer, Id try all the natural remedies first, if that failed then I would explore what the oncologist would recommend.
Also radiation and chemo only targets tumors, not the entire cancer in the body, destroying one tumor will pave way for another as radiation within the body causes new cancers to form.

texasmr2 thanks for the kind words! I guess in the end, the cancer patient should have every right to treat themselves as they please, be it the holistic or the alopathic way.
No one should be denied how they want to be treated or bullied by using money as a tool.

 

Your right about it being that person's choice so I'm 110% behind you on that. My aunt has had monthly ckeckup's and then within a month's time she is already stage 4, WTF'S up with that?!?! We could get into the whole 'quality of life' thing aswell as I had to 'clean' my stepfather after being the "your always gonna be worthless" stepchild for 40+yr's so where does that leave us? Answer = square one.

Ok enough of this crap as the main subject is my aunt Myra who is a guiding light in my life and has a life threatening disease.
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I wish you and your aunt all the best. I do not pray, but you will be in my thoughts. Cancer is a terrible thing and everyone on this list is due for some good news.

I am glad the OP and Ruski have made nice because I think the comments were incredibly insensitive and uncalled for. I would suggest adding Ruski to your ignore list, like I have, so that you don't have to read any more of his "opinions" here or in other kooky threads.

I can tell you with 100% certainty that my wife's doctors and their treatment of her breast cancer using chemotherapy and radiation SAVED HER LIFE. She was only 37 when she was diagnosed and wanted all of the treatment options available so that she can be around to watch our children grow up. She is 2 years cancer free!

I don't know that my story helps you cope, but know that there are people who understand and sympathize with you and your aunt.

 

It's all good between us Joe as everyone has an opinion and I respect that. So far my aunt is bouncing around between appointments etc etc, typical bs, so we are just playing the waiting game. Thank you for your reply and your support as kind thought's and word's and encouragement mean more than some think. I don't pray alot either Joe but I did say a small one for your wife/you and your family, heck it can't hurt right lol? Thank you man and best from me to you and your's.

Thank you,
Gregg

 

Make no mistake, chemo and radiation do kill tumors and eradicate the symptoms of cancer.

But are the symptoms of the disease, is the actual disease itself?
What is worse, the cough and runny nose during the flu, or the virus that is running amok inside the body infecting healthy cells?? So even if you can give a patient a drug that will stop his/her runny nose and stop the coughing, the patient still has the VIRUS inside his/her body until eventually the immune system kills every instance of the virus.

Apply this to cancer:
A woman comes in with a tumor in her breasts and is diagnosed with a lobular carcinoma (breast cancer which is confined to the breast tissue only).

Her oncologist suggests surgery and chemo to cut out the tumor, poison and burn out any remaining cancer cells.
The treatment lasts for months, (the woman loses her hair, eye lashes, vomits every day, feels like she is a walking corpse etc) but eventually some months down the track her breast tumor is gone. Her oncologist states that her tumor is gone, therefore she is "free" from cancer. What the oncologists don't openly tell their cancer patients is that chemo and radiation causes other cancers in the body to appear and metastasize, soon after the treatment or a few years after.

What happens is the following:

Even though the tumor is gone, the actual cancer has NOT been cured as whatever caused the tumor to grow within the breast is still there. It could be her diet, it could be the lack of vitamins, it could be carcinogens and radiation exposure that's she got elsewhere that lead to the tumor growth (cancer forming inside her breasts). Most often women get breast cancer from regular mammogram screening that (funny enough) doctors ask women to do to "avoid breast cancer". Mammograms irradiate a woman's breast tissue causing cancer in the future. Ever noticed how women are now doing mammograms more often, yet breast cancer is ever so rising with huge numbers.

A few years down the track, the cancer is back. It could be again in her breasts or it's now formed inside her: lungs, pancreas, brain, anus, gallbladder, ovaries, any organ within her body.

Why did this happen? Because her oncologist simply removed the breast tumor, he did not cure her cancer, he removed the cancer's symptoms.

When a person gets sick with any illness or a condition, the body as a self defense mechanism shows symptoms that something is wrong.

When you have flu, the symptoms are: a sore throat, runny nose, fever, aches etc.

When you have scurvy, the symptoms are: shortness of breath and bone pain, easy bruising and petechiae, gum disease, loosening of teeth, poor wound healing etc.

When you have pellagra, the symptoms are: high sensitivity to sunlight, aggression, dermatitis, alopecia, oedema, beefy red glossitis, red skin lesions, insomnia, weakness, mental confusion.

When you have cancer, the symptoms are: most often a lump or a tumor at the site of the organ, weakness, pains, bleeding, mostly it all depends what type of cancer the person has.

By curing the ONE of the symptoms, you NEVER heal the disease. You simply make the visual or physical abnormalities vanish.

So unfortunately, if a person gets chemo or radiation as a treatment for their cancer, sooner or later, their cancer will come back with vengeance and even stronger.

Call Me Daddy, mark my words, your wife's battle with cancer is not over, she will be back soon and her oncologist will state that her cancer is either back or she has a new cancer.
UNLESS, she has changed her life around and is now more health conscious (the right diet, no carcinogens, no alcohol, no white sugar or table salt etc).

 

All the best dealing with your situation there.

 

Thoughts with you and your Aunt!