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Alfa Romeo 4c who has one?

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  1. flat_plane_eddie

    flat_plane_eddie F1 Rookie
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    I'm pretty much your height and fit fine. I do have longer legs for my height but even then my legs weren't cramped.

    The steering wheel can be adjusted but it is an odd position when you get in it from a different car. You sit low with your legs stretched out and the steering wheel pretty close to you.
     
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  3. TheMayor

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    Its an acquired taste!
     
  4. JoeCab

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    There is some adjustment available but it involves removing the seat and reattaching it to the brackets using a different set of mounting holes. There are 3 positions corresponding to "high, medium, and low'.

    I've found it significantly more comfortable to attach the front of the seat using the highest setting and the rear on the lowest, giving the whole seat a bit of rearward tilt.
     
  5. IloveGT

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    Well said, well said. just very well said.

    I have the race suspension. In comparison to the lotus and porsche gt cars, I think 4c's race suspension can be improved quite a bit. People in 4c forum were talking about having a softer suspension. What is your thought about it?
     
  6. Dragster

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    That’s exactly what I did, and it’s a lot better, IMO. It also makes it easier to see the top of the tach as that was blocked for me when the seat was in the standard position.
     
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  8. boxerman

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    From What i have read the 4c supesion has some designed in toe changes at the rear when compressed. Its also has strut suspension which will bend under stress alterign things like toe and camber(all cars do this, but a strut more so than a wishbone). One has to put this in context, porche 911s have untill this year been strut suspension.

    Possibly due to the really stiff tub swb and tons of grip the effects of this suspension movement seems exagerated on the 4c. Maybe alfa just then made the springs and dampers really stiff as a workaound, same as the germans do. Thats different to the lotus philosophy of lots of suspesion movement through wishbones and softer springs all controlled with really good dampers. The lotus will turn in a pivot easier, that may just bebcasie its shorter still, but the steerign is way lighter yet also sharper geared. A lotus even on track pack suspesion is going to lean over more but still in a controlled not flacid way. That complaince and softer springs makes the lotus feel softer, but it slso means 4 wheels are on the surface more of the time.

    The cost of siff suspesion is motly paid in on road compliance. Stffer suspesion on bumps you can get that skipping stone feeling an pace will be slower to maintain control. On a smooth track hard for any road car to be really siff enough, the 4c seemed ideal there. Could the 4c have been better with wishbones all around, yes that is best practice. But thats not the 4c spec and it is undobtably a seminal superlative car as is, same as porche gt3 with struts is a superlative car, theyre just harder riding and more twitchy.

    From a handling perspective on track I thought the car was great, yes the rear felt twitchy, but you could say its a charateristic and made the car feel live same way people say porche 911s feel live. On road yes a softer suspension would work fine and no one is going near those limits on road. Many scribes are writing that the new alpine 110 is better in stock suspension form than the 110S with harder suspension as its more compliant and fluid.

    There was a company in the Uk a few years back doing some significant changes to the 4c suspension, removing the parts that mkde the rear toe change plus springs and shocks, from what I remember it was an "improvement". Also inokinetic who supplies lots of lotus bits has done some development on the 4c.

    Every car can be "improved" and those improvements usualy improve one thing at the expense of another, it all depends on priorities. I think the 4c is a great car as is. If the road ride is not too punshing for you(and that depends on where you drive) I wouldnt change anything, just enjoy.

    If I were in the market for a drive to track and fun weekend car today, for under 100k the 4c would be at the top of the list.
     
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  9. IloveGT

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    you are an awesome asset to the forum! Thank you for taking the time to provide such useful information!!
     
  10. neth

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    I have the Alfaworks alignment geometry “blocks” on my 4C, as well as front rose joints, and rear arm upgrades. Combined with swapping from the stock pirellis to contis there is definitely less twitchiness and even better feel and feedback. I didn’t think it was bad at all before the upgrades, just the true nature of the car, but some very simple upgrades make it even better. I also had some custom magnesium 5 spokes made as a little less I sprung weight never hurts :)
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