Alfa Romeo Giulia

Have you sat in one with the Standard Powered Seats, how does it compare to the Sparco Carbon Fiber, and I know you mentioned is the most comfortable then any of your cars - which cars are you comparing them to?

 

Most of my Ferraris and my Ghibli

The standard seats are good too just don't hold me the way the sparco ones do

 

Thank you for that, I am impressed to know the carbon seats are more comfortable then the Ghibli seats

I'm 5' 9" 125lbs, but my main concern was for long trip comfort as I've been having a hard time decide to go with the Standard Powered Seats or the Sparco Carbon Fiber Seats.

I love the way the carbon seats look vs. the standard, but sucks that the carbon seats have no heating or cooling element. Also you loose power adjustment w/driver side memory (which isn't much of a concern)

 

What is this? Fiat Chrysler shrugs off negatives, helped by Maserati, Alfa Romeo spin-off theories FCA rumored to sell off Alfa Romeo and Maserati? If it's gonna be true then Sergio hardly keeps his promises! Promised to invest 5 billion euros for Alfa Romeo five years plan and make it as global premium brand? Guess what they haven't even spent 5 billion euros yet maybe just 2 billion but already ran out the cash it could be a rebirth for Alfa Romeo and Maserati, especially Maserati, cuz they never really had money to make a new model to replace the current GT and delay the Alfieri until 2019-2020 I think VW might interested in Alfa Romeo, and Chinese would love to purchase them all, they have money all they need is technology, so if everything money can buy they will buy it for sure, like they bought Pirelli! It's shame that FCA's finance is like a black hole, everything they do is adding more debt, how is Sergio shrugs off 7 billion debt by the end of 2018 when he retire? What do you guys think?

 

Do we know what the warranty is? Will there be a,cpo program?

 

4 years/50,000 miles: http://www.chrysler.com/hostd/windowsticker/getWindowStickerPdf.do?vin=ZARFAEAV0H7519296

 

thank you. I thought I had heard discussion of adding a year...5/50 but I suspect that was fake news.

any knowledge of a cpo program being offered by alfa? I understand that the cars are new but...

 

Today in Car and Driver:

"We are declaring the Giulia Quadrifoglio the new benchmark among sports sedans. Yes, you read that correctly. It drives outstandingly well, and at $73,595 to start, it is priced in the thick of the segment. Our nearly loaded test car’s $79,195 as-tested price even counts as tame compared with the prices one can pay for an M3 or a C63. "

2017 Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio Test ? Review ? Car and Driver

 

spent some time with the qf today at the dealership in Greensboro. overall I like the car. I had my complaints however.

to start...

paint...looked at a volcanic black metallic. the orange peel was refrigerator like. terrible!!

door operation...very flimsy and the open/close dampening (is that the correct term?) was terrible. the doo swings open and bounces back shut as if there is no control in the degree the door opens or closes. probably as bad as I have ever seen.

trunk closing...had to virtually slam the trunk lid shut to get it to stay latched closed.

hood closing...had to virtually slam the hood to shut it properly. placing it gently down meant that I had to work hard to get it to latch. not elegant in the operation by any measure...similar to the trunk lid.

panel fit...the gap between the trailing edge of the door where it fits up to the rear wheel arch is pretty bad and I could not look away.

head liner...material was junk and not befitting of a car of this intent.

last, the b-pillar...I am tall so with the seat back in a position comfortable for me, the b-pillar was into my arm and would certainly cause me pain if on a longer drive.

the dealer wanted to negotiate w/ me and clearly wanted to sell the car to me today. it was $78k msrp and I think I could have bought the car today for ~$72k.

honestly, I just did not like the car. don't get me started on the fiat / jeep dealership. I may end up buying one of these but my experience today was not as great as I had prayed it would be

 

Interesting feedback. I need to check it out in person. My dealer is asking 20k over MSRP.

 

call the Greensboro, nc dealer today...now. triad fiat - alfa romeo on Wendover avenue. I bet if you will take the black one you can still drive it home for less than msrp!!!! I am reeling a bit. I need to figure out what I am now going to do for a car to drive for my east coast home. I am sure it is a serious performer but I am just stuck on the lousy attention to detail on this friggin car I have been waiting for all these months

 

I am also confident that this car will not sell at a premium. the dealer also told me they have a white and a montecarlo blue on the way. bith w/ ccb's. I was also told that alfa romeo WILL NOT take any custom build orders w/o ccb's. seems to actually support the position of a previous poster in this thread.

if I were to get one I would have to go w/ roso competizione w/ 5 hold dark wheels, steel rotors and standard seats. I will sleep on it and go look at the car again to see if I am being overly critical.

 

That's very disappointing, fit and finish is one of my sticking points.

 

yes. me too. I hope I don't come off as having slammed the car? I so want to be impressed with every element of the giulia. my better half just loved it but I really got fixated on the list of items I previously laid out. I will need to see another example in a non-black color I suspect. black certainly is not very forgiving!!

 

I always look at that stuff like low hanging fruit. If the oem can't get that right then I'll never fully trust that the stuff I can't see is done right. Even if the car is amazing, I'll be worried it'll fall apart 5k miles into ownership.

 

I'll go check one out when I get back, but that is disappointing to read.

 

Not quite sure if the above is all Alfa's fault.

Hood is from CF, so closing it gently on it's own weight is probably out of the question anyway.

 

The one I saw was pretty well finished. The color was blue so maybe not showing orange peel as bad, but I thought it looked nice. I have seen new Ferrari's and Maserati's that looked the same quality or worse.

 

this is a good point. the underside of the hood was finished in pretty carbon fiber. nice touch I must say.

 

I saw one last spring at a Maserati dealer along with the Levante and I thought it looked pretty good but you can certainly find much better finished and appointed cars at that price level just not with all of that performance equipment on them. I wasn't horribly alarmed by what I saw but then what I saw was probably a ringer.

I hope it ends up great as we could certainly use some nice new Italian entries in the marketplace here.

 

I agree wholeheartedly. And average incomes haven't risen in a decade. I don't know how anyone with a normal job saves.

 

They don't. Therein lies the problem but let's stay on topic. I think Alfa has hit the mark dynamically with the car, now let's see if it is reliable. Btw I must say that an 74k M2 is insane. Aren't they around $50k base.

 

At that price it's self limiting. Absurd.