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  1. jsa330

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    per Alfa Romeo, “Midnight Gray Metallic”. Under the radar & won’t go out of style :D
     
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    correction: Moonlight Gray Metallic
     
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  3. JoeCab

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    We had a 2017 Giulia Ti Sport (RWD) in that color, and at the time it was called Silverstone Grey. I think somewhere in the last few years Alfa has started using the MOPAR color names for some of the colors, or shifted some colors slightly to better align with other MOPAR brands.

    That was a fun project car - we added an intake, exhaust, ECU tune, TAROX brake kit, LSD rear end, an a set of staggered wheels.

    In the end, it was nearly as fast as my 2017 Quadrifoglio at 1/3 the cost!
     

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    Thanks for sharing. Would like to hear more specifics about those mods. A Giula is still on the consideration list as a daily driver and part-time track car for my son.
     
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    I am glad to detail the mods but I will keep it brief out of respect for F-chat policies on commercial posts. My company [Centerline International] either manufactures or sells most of the parts used on this project and we are not an F-chap sponsor. There was actually a multi-page article in the Alfa Owner magazine about this car a few years ago.

    The basic idea was just to showcase how a lot of the performance parts we sell for the Giulia work together. And, since the cars are so similar, 90% of what we did on the Giulia project would work on a Stelvio as well. Most everything was bolt-on and we tried to keep the looks of the project to a mild, OEM+ style.

    We wanted to start with what I considered to be the lightest/sportiest base car, so I specifically hunted down a RWD, non-sunroof Ti Sport. Surprisingly hard to find!

    Here's a quick list of what we added:

    BMC drop-in air filter
    Centerline Competizione 3.0" exhaust (Manufactured by Magnaflow)
    Eurocompulsion Stage II ECU tune with rev-limiter increase and partial traction control delete
    Limited Slip rear differential (new, factory replacement part, used on "Q2" and "Q4/Performance Pack" cars)
    TAROX 1-piece grooved rotors and Strada street performance pads
    Staggered factory "Dark 5-Hole" wheel set with 225 width front and 255 width rear summer tires
    Carbon Quadrifoglio rear spoiler, mirror covers, lighted carbon front sill plates

    The end result was a very driveable package that all seemed to be working together well, but was overall considerably more sporty that stock. The intake/exhaust and ECU tune puts the power at a little more than 300hp and 350 lb/ft at the rear wheels, which feels about right for this chassis. The 2.0 engine doesn't really love to rev but has gobs and gobs of torque, and the ECU tune really accentuates that feeling. People that didn't know probably thought it was all factory.

    The one frustration was that all of the mods greatly reduced, but didn't completely eliminate, the intrusive factory traction and stability control, which is non-defeatable. There are other mods that can enable the "RACE" mode from the Quadrifoglio model on 2.0 cars, but we did not go down that route. The traction control issue is really specific to the RWD cars and is hardly noticeable on AWD Giulias.

    The car was sold to a good friend and local customer. He has taken it on a couple of cross-country road trips that included track days and continues to use it daily.
     
  6. jsa330

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    If 20 years younger, I’d go the ‘pre owned’ & modded route. As it is, I’ll be pushing 80 when the factory warranty expires, which brings up the question “what the hell am I doing?”
     
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    Honestly the car I miss the most. I find myself looking at the leftover 2024s, there are over 100 QVs on dealer lots.
     
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    I agree, I miss the QV. But it left me stranded too many times. I live about 2 hours and 20 from a dealer. It was not the best location. But man that car was about half a second slower than my Ferrari 458. Not bad for a 4 door. The brakes will put you through the window...
     
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    in my 9th year and still making me smile.....there is no other sport sedan out there right now I'd rather own....
    fortunately I have a solid dealer who is close by....but really other than routine stuff; oil changes & such & scheduled maintenance...car has been flawless...
    I feel for the people who had bad experiences with theirs, especially if it was a dealer experience.....
     
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    Same here. Our 2017 QV, which was one of the first cars off the boat when they were first released, has been flawless.

    I do all my own maintenance, so it has rarely seen a dealer.

    But I know that definitely hasn't been everyone's experience. I still believe most of the issues these cars had were related to bad batteries, and that is such a ridiculously stupid thing for Alfa to let ruin their repuation...
     
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  11. Dai Baracca

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    as was mine...took delivery 12/24/16.....I only have one mod on my car...your Stradale Exhaust! Love It!....as good as any of the exhausts I've had on my M Cars
     
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    If I needed a sedan I'd get a Giulia Quad.
     
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    Maybe not quite gone... I just got an offer from Alfa with $4,500 off remaining new 2024 Quadrifoglios. If anyone wants the discount code let me know...
     
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    Some are pushing $20k off online already, they should be desperate now to move the 150+ remaining 2024s. IIRC I only paid about $66,800 for my 2018 because it was an end-of-year 2018, it was October with 2019s on the lot already.
     
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    When did they change the headlights? 24?
     
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    I looked at '23s before buying a '24. They changed the headlights and LCD display for '24.
     
  18. JoeCab

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    Here is, in broad strokes, a few of the changes to the QVs:

    2017 - Initial year, lightest, no folding rear seat. No car play.
    2018 - Raised ride height. Mid year 2018 - introduced SGW which is a bid deal as it makes the ECU read only = harder to service yourself.
    2019 - Lowered ride height back down to close to original ride height, added folding rear seats. CarPlay now available (standard). Added port injectors.
    2020 - Interior refresh with newer shifter, steering wheel, touch screen infotainment
    2022 - *I am not sure on the exact date of these changes* Full leather interior instead of Alcantara seat centers. Carbon ceramic brakes no longer an option. Roof no longer carbon fiber except if you choose the "exposed carbon fiber" option. Silver wheels no longer offered, only "Dark" anthracite options.
    2024 - Changed rear axle from electronic torque vectoring to traditional mechanical LSD. New head lights that look like Tonale.
     
  19. jsa330

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    Mine is just a "plain jane" Guilia Sprint, but no doubt shares some new features with the QVs
     
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    There really aren't any plain Giulias. They are all very special compared to most vehicles on the road.
     
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    True dat. I thought I’d be driving our Mercedes for the rest of my life, then along came the Guilia. It was like a 75 year old man falling for a 20 year old girl o_O
     
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  22. Dai Baracca

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    I think that now that March 31st 2025 marks the end of the Giulia & Stelvio QVs....pricing on the new left over cars may become more firm....
    we shall see.....
     
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