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Alignment, what a difference

Discussion in '360/430' started by Doug_S, Apr 22, 2011.

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  1. Doug_S

    Doug_S Formula Junior

    Apr 8, 2007
    450
    NJ
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    Doug
    This spring I got a four wheel alignment with the normal annual service. I had recently put new tires on.

    What a difference. I used to think my wife's BMW tracked slightly better than the 360. Now there is no comparison. The car is much more fun and less twitchy.

    I never thought it was seriously out of align. Tire wear was pretty even and not at all excessive. I did notice from the service records that it has been eight years in the northeast potholes and never had an alignment.

    Anyway, as I said, it made a major difference in driving enjoyment for me.
     
  2. Chiaroman

    Chiaroman Formula 3
    Rossa Subscribed

    Apr 21, 2004
    1,687
    New Jersey
    Hello,

    Also in NJ.

    South Jersey to be precise and I use Algar for service.

    I visited there today and toured the newly renovated facilities.

    They have a BRAND NEW laser system to check the alignment of the tires.

    Paddle like devices are attached to the tires and a laser does the rest.

    Tres cool!!!!

    I will get a price and maybe have it done at my next annual.

    Yours,

    Tom
     
  3. Doug_S

    Doug_S Formula Junior

    Apr 8, 2007
    450
    NJ
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    I really like Algar for service. I had them do my belt service. They picked up and delivered my car and gave me a good price on the service. Super nice people also.
     
  4. E60 M5

    E60 M5 Moderator
    Moderator Owner

    Jan 2, 2006
    8,168
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    Robert
    Alignment is recommended for all cars once a year at a minimum.
     
  5. bill59

    bill59 Karting

    Oct 26, 2010
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    bean town
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    Is this a go to dealer only thing? Best. Bill
     
  6. SSR

    SSR Formula 3

    Jun 14, 2007
    1,134
    I do my own alignment with strings and corner weight.
     
  7. GML

    GML Formula Junior

    Dec 8, 2010
    283
    Kansas
    Sorry for the dumb questions but how would you know the car needs an alignment? Is it just a routine thing to do for every tire change? Thanks! :)
     
  8. SSR

    SSR Formula 3

    Jun 14, 2007
    1,134
    I align and corner balance because I lowered the car.
     
  9. F430GT

    F430GT Formula 3

    Sep 29, 2005
    1,300
    Marco Island, FL
    worse alignments are the ones done by Ferrari dealers.

    Race shops do the best alignments.

    I do my own alignment way too often (testing different settings), but on a road car (no track use), every 5,000 miles you should check the alignment.

    All brand new Ferraris from the showroom come with wrong specs, it must be a shipping thing.
     
  10. Doug_S

    Doug_S Formula Junior

    Apr 8, 2007
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    NJ
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    Doug
    Uneven tire wear can show it, but the alignment has to be pretty bad. After driving without alignment and freshly aligned I could now tell a difference by driving.

    Every F-car I looked at prepurchase had no alignment in the maintenance records. I was surprised but lots of drivers seem to skimp a little in maintenance, even when they can obviously afford to do it. Since I never saw it in the records and the manual dosn't mention it in the scheduled maintence I assumed it was something you had to address when/if a service tech draws a problem to your atention.

    It looks like with Alger's set up, your alignment can be checked at trivial time and expense. I'm going to check it every spring because having it on really makes a difference.
     
  11. 360trev

    360trev F1 Rookie
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    Oct 29, 2005
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    As others have posted it is a radically different feeling when the car is running correct with good geo settings vs the wheels all pointing in different directions.

    Not only geometry but also go to a pro racing shop and see if they can "corner weight" the car with you in it! It results in the best possible handling and chassis balance to give you the confidence to press on hard in the twisty bits with no nasty surprises.
     
  12. SfefVan

    SfefVan Guest

    Nov 28, 2008
    1,370
    Switzerland
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    Stef
    Here are the figures of my last alignment after changing the springs for Scud springs and lowered the car. As you can see, my car needed a serious alignment even if my tires has a very even wear.

    (From thread http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=307048&page=2 )

    Rear Alignment values (before / after)
    Camber Left: -2°47' -> -1°47'
    Camber Right: -2°46' -> -1°44'
    Toe-in Left: +4.8mm -> +1.6mm
    Toe-in Right: +1.0mm -> +1.6mm
    Toe-in Total: +5.8mm -> +3.2mm
    Toe-in Diff: +6.7mm -> +0.8mm

    Front Alignement values (before / after)
    Camber Left: -1°56' -> -1°37'
    Camber Right: -1°45' -> -1°31'
    Toe-in Left: +2.1mm -> +1.5mm
    Toe-in Right: +1.6mm -> +1.6mm
    Toe-in Total: +3.7mm -> +3.1mm
    Toe-in Diff: 0mm -> -1.1mm
    Caster 20° Left: +5°58' -> +5°50'
    Caster 20° Right: +5°56' -> +5°49'
    Left Max steering Left Wheel: +21°36' -> +29°00'
    Left Max steering Right: +20°57' -> +26°19'
    Right Max steering Left Wheel: +29°29' -> +26°41'
    Right Max steering Right Wheel: +32°48' -> +29°29'
     
  13. GML

    GML Formula Junior

    Dec 8, 2010
    283
    Kansas
    Great info! Thanks. :D
     

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