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  1. Buzz48317

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  2. wax

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    It's about time! Sheesh! Hoax from the get-go.

    Will, as promised, Jesse Jackson still pay the rest of Crystal Gail Mangum's tuition regardless of the outcome of this case?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_Gail_Mangum#_note-7

    Will the $400,000.00 bonds be paid back to each family along with legal fees?
    http://www.dilby.com/duke-lacrosse-team-accuser.htm

    Indeedly-do, Mike "Dip****" Nifong's phone number has changed
    http://www.zabasearch.com/query1_zaba.php?sname=Mike%20Nifong&state=NC&ref=$ref&se=$se&doby=&city=&name_style=1
     
  3. Blackbird4life

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    nice website, how come I get results under my name yet my other friends dont?
     
  4. robert biscan

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    What a good ending to just a horrible event. I wonder if the players will ever get over this.
     
  5. ZINGARA 250GTL

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    Justice is finally served. Politics is once again reviled as well it should be. There are different kinds of rape. Has this been one of them?


     
  6. REMIX

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    Crystal Gail? LOL.

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  7. madmaxatl

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    Nifong messed with the wrong group of people. He ruined those kids lives, he deserves to be in jail along with the accuser.
     
  8. REMIX

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    Oh you can bet these people will get their pound of flesh. I hope Nifong gets a**fu***d.

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    Statement from North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper on the Duke University lacrosse rape case.

    Good afternoon, everyone.

    On Jan. 13 of this year, I accepted the request of the Durham district attorney to take over three Durham cases. At the time, I promised a fresh and thorough review of the facts and a decision on the best way to proceed. I also said that we would have our eyes wide open to the evidence, but that we would have blinders on for all other distractions. We’ve done all of these things.


    During the past 12 weeks, our lawyers and investigators have reviewed the remaining allegations of sexual assault and kidnapping that resulted from a party on March 13, 2006, in Durham, N.C.

    We have carefully reviewed the evidence collected by the Durham County prosecutor’s office and the Durham Police Department. We have also conducted our own interviews and evidence gathering. Our attorneys and SBI (State Bureau of Investigation) agents have interviewed numerous people who were at the party, DNA and other experts, the Durham County district attorney, Durham police officers, defense attorneys and the accusing witness on several occasions. We have reviewed statements given over the past year, photographs, records and other evidence.

    The result of our review and investigation shows clearly that there is insufficient evidence to proceed on any of the charges. Today we are filing notices of dismissal for all charges against Reade Seligmann, Collin Finnerty and David Evans.

    The result is that these cases are over, and no more criminal proceedings will occur.

    We believe that these cases were the result of a tragic rush to accuse and a failure to verify serious allegations. Based on the significant inconsistencies between the evidence and the various accounts given by the accusing witness, we believe these three individuals are innocent of these charges.

    We approached this case with the understanding that rape and sexual assault victims often have some inconsistencies in their accounts of a traumatic event. However, in this case, the inconsistencies were so significant and so contrary to the evidence that we have no credible evidence that an attack occurred in that house that night.

    The prosecuting witness in this case responded to questions and offered information. She did want to move forward with the prosecution.

    However, the contradictions in her many versions of what occurred and the conflicts between what she said occurred and other evidence, like photographs and phone records, could not be rectified.

    Our investigation shows that:

    The eyewitness identification procedures were faulty and unreliable. No DNA confirms the accuser’s story. No other witness confirms her story. Other evidence contradicts her story. She contradicts herself. Next week, we’ll be providing a written summary of the important factual findings and some of the specific contradictions that have led us to the conclusion that no attack occurred.

    In this case, with the weight of the state behind him, the Durham district attorney pushed forward unchecked. There were many points in the case where caution would have served justice better than bravado. And in the rush to condemn, a community and a state lost the ability to see clearly. Regardless of the reasons this case was pushed forward, the result was wrong. Today, we need to learn from this and keep it from happening again to anybody.

    Now, we have good district attorneys in North Carolina who are both tough and fair. And we need these forceful, independent prosecutors to put criminals away and protect the public. But we also need checks and balances to protect the innocent. This case shows the enormous consequences of overreaching by a prosecutor. What has been learned here is that the internal checks on a criminal charge — sworn statements, reasonable grounds, proper suspect photo lineups, accurate and fair discovery — all are critically important.


    Therefore, I propose a law that the North Carolina Supreme Court have the authority to remove a case from a prosecutor in limited circumstances. This would give the courts a new tool to deal with a prosecutor who needs to step away from a case where justice demands.

    I want to thank everyone in the North Carolina Department of Justice. I want to thank our investigators, our SBI agents and especially attorneys Jim Coman and Mary Winstead for their hard work in this matter.
     
  10. Lemke

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    I'm glad this is over with. It was just stupid from the get-go.
     
  11. Pranucci

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    It was all old news, anyway. The media whores need fresh meat to keep their faces in front of the cameras. Now the talking heads can beat up on Don Imus.
    I'm always leery when someone is described as an "activist". Sounds like they can't get a real job.
     
  12. ZINGARA 250GTL

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    I know you are sincere but for many, like Sharpton, Jackson, Sheehan, Robertson, Coulter, and Franken, activism IS their job, and very lucrative thank you very much.



     
  13. James_Woods

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    OK, the Lacross players got done wrong with, and Mr. Nifong is a pandering jerk-off.

    However, I just had my first look at the exotic dancer in question.

    I would suggest that both Nifong, the Duke Lacross coach, and the entire varsity squad be sent to Dallas, Tx. where I can give them a little real-world training in how to judge what an exotic dancer looks like.

    Ex president Bill Clinton would be welcome in this event, too.
     
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    Would you believe on of my ex's was the original investigating officer on this case? She said it was BS from the beginning. AND was removed from the case after two days at the request of that DA.
     
  15. ZINGARA 250GTL

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    Was this guy out of the country for the last couple of years? Or, did he just recently get a testosterone shot. This was about pandering for reelection, period!! And, this character was about letting it happen. Nuts!





     
  16. Houston348

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    so when is Sharpton going to apologize to the Duke players??? or is he still busy being hypocritical with Imus?
     
  17. ZINGARA 250GTL

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    You'd have a shorter wait for a chartreuse 599.





     
  18. rollsorferrari?

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    these players are going to get paid. i'm not a fan of lawsuits, (only in genuine cases do i agree with them) but this sure does warrant one. the da messed up from the get go, i'm just surprised it took this long for all charges to be dropped.
     
  19. darkalley

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    Duke: Horror and Truth

    By Reverend Jesse L. Jackson, Sr.
    © Tribune Media Services

    “Divorced Mother Of Two, Working Way Through College, Allegedly Raped, Abused By Gang.” Had the headline read that way, the fury would have been great. The facts that the police didn’t arrest anyone, that the gang was not talking, that it took two days for the police to search the scene of the crime would have added to the anger.

    But that’s not how it was reported. Rather, it was reported that a black stripper was accusing members of the Duke lacrosse team of rape after she and another woman were hired to dance for them at a party. That method of reportage put race and class in the center of the story. Predictably, the right-wing media machine has kicked in, prompting mean-spirited attacks upon the accuser’s character. Rush Limbaugh called the two women strippers “hoes,” and later apologized saying “I regret you heard me say that.” And Michael Savage referred to the alleged victim as a "Durham dirt-bag" and "dirty, verminous black stripper". And, it is in this tense atmosphere that the accuser flees from home to home, fearing for her safety. The players got lawyers immediately, who advised them to talk to no one. Duke University boosters hired big-time legal gunslinger Bob Bennett – who counts the Catholic Church as well as then-president Bill Clinton among his clients – to step in as spokesman for the newly-formed “Committee for Fairness to Duke Families”.




    We don’t know exactly what happened that night. Initial DNA tests came back negative, incriminating no one. But something happened on the night of March 13th – something so compelling that Durham District Attorney Michael Nifong was prompted to say, “This case is not going away”. Indeed, he asserts that the lack of DNA evidence "doesn't mean nothing happened. It just means nothing was left behind." The District Attorney is putting the case before a grand jury. And, while unresolved racial, gender and class issues dictate and divide perspectives, these facts are not in dispute.

    The players say that they used aliases to hire strippers for a team party at the house rented by the team captains. The accuser goes to school full-time at North Carolina Central, and for the past two months has worked at an escort service to help pay her way through school and support her two children. This was the first time she had been hired to dance for a party, but she expected it to be a bachelor party of five men. She and her partner found themselves in a party of more than 30 white male lacrosse players. The one African American on the team wasn’t there.

    We know that the two women were abused. The accuser says they were met with racial slurs, and stopped dancing and decided to leave. “We started to cry,” she said, “we were so scared.” They left, but team members came out, apologized, and convinced them to come back. A neighbor reports seeing them leave and then come back, and confirms hearing racial slurs.

    The accuser says once they returned, they were separated and she was pushed into a bathroom by three men, strangled, raped, kicked and beaten. The players deny that that happened, but they immediately retained lawyers and stopped talking. The woman was picked up afterward by police, who reported her as “passed out drunk.” Admitted to a hospital, tests showed injuries consistent with rape and physical assault.

    The team was notorious for its gross behavior. 15 of the 47 players had been previously charged with misdemeanors ranging from underage drinking to public urination. After the party one player sent out an email saying that he planned on inviting strippers over and then “killing the b…. as soon as they walk in and proceeding to cut their skin off,” an act he said would be sexually satisfying.

    Black women; white men. A stripper; and a team blowout. The wealthy white athletes – many from prep schools – of Duke; and the working class woman from historically black North Carolina Central. Race and class and sex. What happened? We don’t know for sure because the Duke players are maintaining a code of silence.

    The history of white men and black women – the special fantasies and realities of exploitation – goes back to the nation’s beginning and the arrival of slaves from Africa. The patterns associated with this history arouse fears and evoke too many bad memories.

    Duke University is clearly embarrassed by the incident. The president cancelled the lacrosse team’s season, and accepted the resignation of its coach, who had taken the team to the national championship last year. He convened five panels to look into various aspects of the incident. At Duke, North Carolina Central, and schools across the country students and administrators began discussing once more the combustible realities of racial and sexual harassment on campus.

    Durham, North Carolina where Duke is located is not the old South. Its Mayor is black, as is its police chief, and the majority of its city council. It is relatively prosperous, with low unemployment, home of high-tech companies. The largest black owned insurance company is located there as are two black owned banks. There is also poverty, disproportionately African American. And there is Duke, a private school stocked with affluent, mostly white kids, often referred to as the plantation.

    But Duke is alas probably no worse than other schools in the way African American women are too often perceived. As Rebecca Hall of the University of California in Berkeley, who studies images of African American women in the culture, states, “Turn on a music video. A black woman is somebody who has excess sexuality….It’s excess sexuality that white men are entitled to.”

    In the wake of the Duke scandal, black women across the country report on how often they are harassed or treated as simply objects available to hit on by white men. This image is magnified in our culture – and not simply by white producers, but on black music videos and black networks as well.

    The Duke scandal should lead colleges across the country to hold searching discussions about racial and sexual stereotypes, exposing the myths that entrap so many. But it shouldn’t take the brutalizing of a mother of two to raise these issues. Justice must be pursued at Duke. But Duke should not be treated as an isolated extreme – but as a goad to probing discussion and concerted action to lift students above the hatreds, the fears and the fantasies that still plague our society.
     
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    This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," April 18, 2006, that has been edited for clarity.

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    BILL O'REILLY, HOST: Two Duke lacrosse players have been arrested and charged with rape among other violent crimes. They are free on $400,000 bail. As you may know, the students attended a party where a stripper hired by the lacrosse team said she was raped. With us now civil rights activist Reverend Al Sharpton. Is this a racial issue?

    REV. AL SHARPTON, CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST: I think that there are certainly a lot of racial factors. Whether it is directly in the case, we'll see, because some reports said that there was racial language used. But I think that when you look at the racial atmosphere, when you look at the fact that there again were the allegations of racial statements, when you look at a lot of people feeling that they have been treated differently, where this girl has basically had a character charged in the media, there is a lot of racism that's in the air. Having said that, I commend a lot of the blacks and whites who stood vigil and to come together in that community to stand up for this girl. So I think in the midst of this, there is some good.


    O'REILLY: Why are we standing up for the girl if there is the possibility, based upon evidence, that the girl may have fabricated the story? Why don't we all pull back and let the authorities investigate and let the legal system work?

    SHARPTON: Well, first of all, the authorities have charged there was a crime, so they are not saying that at all. Second of all, people on any side of an argument have the ride to advocate on behalf of who they believe. Thirdly, I think that when the prosecutors went forward, they clearly have said this girl is the victim, so why would we be trying the victim and not the...

    O'REILLY: I don't want to try anybody, but there is enough evidence that has surfaced here. We have evidence that DNA doesn't match the kids. We have evidence that ABC News uncovered that there is a recording made by a security guard who looked at the victim after she said she was raped and said there was no problem and we have a police officer who found the victim drunk in a car in a 7-Eleven who phoned it in before she went to the hospital. So when you have three elements like that, I say there is reasonable doubt right now. You know what the grand jury proceeding is.

    SHARPTON: Absolutely.

    O'REILLY: It's a one-sided proceeding.

    SHARPTON: But I think that all of the facts that you have laid out the DA had — and I know this DA is probably not one that is crazy. He would not have proceeded if he did not feel that he could convict. So it tells me that all of what you said is either not true or he has convincing evidence that would certainly knock that out and no one is not letting him proceed. You know, a lot of those community leaders down there, pro and con, wanted a lot of people to come in. I know for a fact asked Jesse Jackson to come, we said we don't want to be (INAUDIBLE)...

    O'REILLY: So you didn't go down, Jackson did go down. I don't want what happened to Amadou Diallo, remember Amadou Diallo.

    SHARPTON: Oh, absolutely.

    O'REILLY: He was the African immigrant who was shot by police, shot dead here in New York and there were demonstrations. You were out there demonstrating and all that. And then when the trial came, the jury, which included African-Americans said not guilty.

    SHARPTON: No, you jumped too far. They moved the trial out of town.

    O'REILLY: Doesn't matter.

    SHARPTON: It matters a whole lot. If that trial had happened in New York where people were very clear on that street crime unit, the results would have been different. The case this reminds me of, Bill — let's talk about the case this parallels.

    O'REILLY: It does.

    SHARPTON: This case parallels Abner Louima, who was raped and sodomized in a bathroom like this girl has alleged she was. That's the case and just like in the Louima case, you have people here saying she fabricated it. They said he fabricated it — two guys in jail right now for that.

    O'REILLY: And that was fine. I'm all for that.

    SHARPTON: And we marched there.

    O'REILLY: Here's my point. The jury system worked in the Louima case, OK.

    SHARPTON: The jury system worked after we were assured by our protests there would be a jury. I don't think...

    O'REILLY: Would you say the jury system worked in the Louima case?

    SHARPTON: Ultimately.

    O'REILLY: And I would submit the jury system worked in the Diallo case as well.

    SHARPTON: No, I wouldn't.

    O'REILLY: Because you didn't get the verdict you wanted.

    SHARPTON: The change of venue.

    O'REILLY: So what? That's what they ruled.

    SHARPTON: Even then we accepted it as something we disagreed with. Nobody is burning down New York. Nobody is burning down Durham. I think, what I don't accept is for people to act like this young lady, no matter what her profession — and I think people need to know she is a mother, a divorced mother of two and a student, that we ought to be putting her on trial rather than these two that are getting indicted.

    O'REILLY: She is going to be put on trial, you know that.

    SHARPTON: The one charged with the crime is the two that paid to go home. Is she charged with a crime, Bill?

    O'REILLY: No. If you were the lawyer for the kids whose lives are in the balance here, you would certainly try to tell the jury that this witness had a questionable past, did some things that weren't up and up.

    SHARPTON: First of all, they better be prepared to see if she is the only witness. You don't know what other people are going to testify. You don't know what other evidence they have. So let's not get ready to discredit the girl until we see the whole passage. That's what happened with Louima. We had more than Louima, so let's not assume just discrediting the girl will work this time.

    O'REILLY: Let me be clear. Your stance is let the system work.

    SHARPTON: My stance is that Reverend Bob of the NAACP and others down there are advising a lot of the community what happened, we're in touch with them and we're going to work and advise through them. We'll do whatever is necessary or not necessary.

    O'REILLY: All right, but you don't know yet, You, Al Sharpton, don't know what happened.

    SHARPTON: I don't know yet and I think that the proper thing to do is to support those that want justice.

    O'REILLY: All right. I'm all for that. I support justice. Always a pleasure. Thank you.
     
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    Morons.

    By that logic and they're eagerness to jump on the backs of those who are down, they would end up being raped and castrated themselves. An eye for an eye only works if you're right. If you're wrong and take an eye from an innocent then be prepared to give up one of your own eyes.
     
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    That Finnerty chap's old man is named Kevin; same name as Tony Soprano's character as he lay in a coma. Coincidence? I think not.
     
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    These are the REAL VIGILANTES, not the Minutemen! Anyone read "The Oxbow Incident"?





     

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