All-Electric Ferrari Announced for 2025!

Of course it does. First, the Ferrari Radio is made by virgins under the moonlight with only the finest patent restricted parts available. Second, the sound that it can produce exceeds the limits of the human ear allowing both low frequency whales and dolphins as well high frequency dogs and cats to enjoy the sounds.

To suggest that a Camry radio could reproduce the engineered sound of a Ferrari radio playing an F1 tape is preposterous.

 

It’s the way of the future although I think it’s a joke as someone already pointed out, all these electric cars are being charged by electricity created from coal burning plants.

But Ferrari batteries are not known for being real reliable and now you want a whole car powered by them? YIKES!

 

All I care about is gasoline, as long as its around, their will be used Ferraris to be bought and driven.If they want to build nothing but evs , let them, they will have enough idiots to buy them, same as what we see now, present company excluded .

Thank you

 

Such a classy sound. Who wouldn't get all emotional about that. Then there's the wooden test stand.

 

Just because Ferrari will make and sell an EV doesn't mean you have to buy it. This is just one car, for now, although there will certainly be others.

A while ago, Enzo decided to finance his racing team by selling cars to the public. Those cars allowed Ferrari the flexibility to maintain their team over many years. Now they want to sell an FUV. Now they want to sell an EV. It's a means to an end for the company. The public will buy them, which will give Ferrari more flexibility for the future. If those particular cars don't appeal to you, don't buy them.

Andy


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Today's kids are tomorrow's buyers. From my experiences, kids prefer it.

 

They are converting older F cars to electric in the UK NOW.

 

I think we will eventually come full circle. IME will have a place and tomorrow’s buyers will seek them out again.

 

Sorry ICE

 

Ferrari could make another 300 super cars and charge 10M each and it be sold out in a week so people will buy the E car no matter what but for a business model I am not so sure

 

How much are you driving? Some simple math based on your numbers above:
- Increase in electric bill: $950 / month ($1100 - $150)
- Increase in energy: 3200kWh / month (assumes ~$0.30 per kWh utility rate)
- Miles driven per month: 11000mi / month (assumes 3.5mi / kWh)

Wow. The two of you drive a *lot* of miles per month. And these would all have to be "day trips", since you're coming home to charge the vehicle.

 

hahaha! I love my Dinoco shirt.

 

I agree I don't know if the majority of buyers would seek them out, but there will always be a niche. Good for us!

 

How or what will they use to recharge those batteries, I’m thinkin’ it’s going to be oil or NG. AND I can guarantee we will be fighting over lithium.

 

At least with an EV there is the potential to change. Lots of folks I know with EVs also have solar panels that power their cars. The US has huge quantities of lithium in places like Nevada there shouldn't be a need to fight over it, however I wouldn't be surprised if alot of short sighted environmentalists make it very difficult to mine there.

 

There's nothing to be said for specific output?

Would love to hear how a GM pushrod V8 is ahead in engine tech compared to Ferrari. (aside from fuel economy)

 

Oh boy..that old push rod engine has been absoulty destroying Ferrais on the street and track for decades. You picked the wrong engine in this case.

 

Even if that were true which I am failing to understand, that speaks to being ahead in engine tech how?

I work with those pushrod V8's for a living for the past couple of decades so certainly nothing against them but to say that engine is ahead in tech?

Guess I would be waiting a while for an answer to that one.

 

The end game for EV is self-driving. There’s not much of an enthusiast argument to be made for it.

Also, the superior technology and speed argument for EV is a bit like comparing sail boats to power boats. Obviously, the latter has superior technology and speed, but yet the former thrives.

 

Electric cars are transition tech. They will continue to exist, but they are not viable for the world. You cannot have sufficient proximal charging points to accommodate apartment blocks in cities or farms in middle Australia or Namibia. They are not eco friendly either if you consider the rape and pillage of African countries to open cast mine the rare earth metals to make the batteries, and to use in wind vane motors supplying apparently green energy. And then there is battery disposal and the fact that, whilst more economical, the additional weight of electric cars goes some way to negating the value of the reduced the power draw off the largely fossil fuel driven grid. It is a farce supported by government tax incentives to encourage people to buy electric as they desperately try to show they are doing something good for the planet and appease everyone's conscience. The production and disposal of an electric car is less environmentally friendly than a car with an internal combustion engine and the level of emissions from electric vehicles varies depending on how the electricity is produced. Furthermore, it is all pointless until there are alternatives to replace shipping bunker fuel (one of the world's biggest polluters) and to a lesser extent, aircraft. The only real solution for shifting high mass transport is hydrogen fuel cell or synthetic fuels, the latter of which amazingly works in our existing combustion engines with very little modification. Only Porsche seems to be willing to invest in making more e-fuels, although Ferrari are lobbying for their use in F1 by 2024. Surely all car companies should support synthetic fuel manufacture so they don't have to change the production line?

So with this in mind, the only Ferraris which will remain important are those which represent the history of the company. The same will be said of manual transmission. All Ferraris post Enzo's death in 1989 probably unfortunately don't qualify as "making history" as there is no front engined Columbo V12, the last engine fitted in his lifetime, and therefore perhaps the last historically relevant Ferrari engine. If you want evidence as to the desirability of manual over auto, there is only one Ferrari which shows this empirical evidence: The 400, 400i and 412 manuals consistently trade at a 20-30% premium to the autos. There is no other Ferrari in Enzo's era which was made in both auto and manual form. Will this be echoed in residual values of electric cars with no gears and no history?

If we agree that synthetic fuels will be valid (I hope so) then ICE cars will remain desirable, especially as more companies make non-eco friendly electric cars.

But as we know, there is no right or wrong, and we humans really don't know anything. Wisdom is knowing that you don't know, so as long as there is a choice, we should be happy.

 

Very eloquent post!! A lot of great points, well put. Let’s just hope there can still be a choice but I somehow doubt anything will change now.


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I think ICE will be with us as an enthusiast medium, such as Tube Amps, Vinyl, Analog watches.

A good example is the United States does not ban certain collectible firearms, even if they are fully automatic. It's just a hard and expensive process to acquire one legally.

 

Well we could have track days and sit in the stands as we watch our cars race each other?

 

I never ever said they were ahead in tech. The GM engines I was speaking of are the 6 bangers and 4 bangers. They are quite the little.power plants.

 

Electric cars are a completely different product to ICE cars, and to my mind they will always be an inferior product. The finest ICE cars like Ferraris were designed with the sole purpose of fulfilling the role of an automobile to perfection. The designers and engineers combined to make a thing of beauty and the highest engineering standards, and the object was not just to get from A to B as quickly as possible but to make that journey a wonderful and memorable experience.

Electric cars do not have that focus at all. They're basically an absurdity created for purely political purposes and forced on a public who are mostly too supine to care what they drive - people who see a car as being pretty much like a washing machine. Their designers are not starting from the concept of making a great car - their starting point is that we've been given a pig, what shade of lipstick should we apply to it?

In an ideal world Ferrari should have said to hell with electric cars, the whole idea is entirely incompatible with what we're all about, and we'll be quite happy to carry on making the best ICE cars that we can until the government stops us doing so. And then we'll carry on making parts to make sure that the thousands of Ferraris around the world will be able to survive indefinitely. Hell, we might even concentrate on improving parts for our old cars, so that transmissions and electric roofs don't fail and people won't be so scared of buying them.

But it's not an ideal world, and Ferrari are now a long, long way from when Enzo ran the company. They're now a rather unpleasant and pretentious public company, with responsibilities to their shareholders a much bigger priority than their responsibilities to Ferrari drivers, and their focus has long since moved from making great cars to making great profits.

I suspect that Ferrari will eventually be killed by electric cars, and because of what they've become I won't shed any tears. They were a wonderful moment in time, but everything has a life cycle, and theirs is drawing to a close.