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All Future Ferraris to be Turbocharged?

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by RyanMinor, Sep 16, 2013.

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  1. RyanMinor

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  2. crinoid

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    If true I'm wondering if they'd split road legal and track models drive trains to have some NA and some turbo. I can't imagine they'll abandon V12's all together.
     
  3. Bullfighter

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    I wouldn't be surprised at all.

    The weight savings of smaller blocks, plus fuel efficiency, plus Formula One going that direction... a lot of signs point this way.

    From a technology perspective, turbocharging today is light years beyond the axe murderer persona of the classic Porsche 930. The boost in my daily driver Audi (and probably most cars these days) comes on smoothly and early -- makes it very torque-y for a smaller engine.
     
  4. staatsof

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    Well the new Maserati V8 & V6 engines are offered this way, yes the return of the Biturbo, and if they're following the same plan as the last time then those engines will get tweaked and appear as Ferrari engines. There's even a diesel!

    Could be. ;)
     
  5. NürScud

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    It is not necessarily a bad thing. If we look at the past, we will see some models which were turbocharged and it did it very well!
     
  6. Mitch Alsup

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    The future is a very long time.
     
  7. JG333SP

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    For a coupe of yrs the 911 turbo has used a 'newer' turbo tech called variable geometry. To 60 mph it's well under 3 secs-a technical wonder for a prod car. It's also about 1/2 as much $$s as a 458. Emissions regulations? Fcar buyers would pay the extra penalty. How much more could it be?, they are already pay twice as much for a car with less performance. I'm sure there will be more Turbo options from Fcar in the future, but not the only option
     
  8. furmano

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    Probably not all models. The V12 will likely remain and will likely remain NA.

    -F
     
  9. Sld7

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    Their will NEVER be a Ferrari V6.

    V8 Turbo= Yes

    V12= Yes/But Hybrid
     
  10. pappy.72

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    So is the new 2014 F1 team Scuderia Dino? The Ferrari V6 is on its way.
     
  11. Rosso328

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    Hmmm. Scuderia Dino.

    Not a bad idea for a junior driver development team ala Scuderia Toro Rosso...
     
  12. sindo308qv

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    Much rather have turbos than a hybrid.
     
  13. DeSoto

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    Many of us are not fans of turbo engines... but you´ve got to float like a leaf on the river of life.

    Many buyers probably even don´t know what the difference is, they only see the bhp figure, and for Ferrari the convenient reintroduction of turbos in F1 eliminates all the marketing hassle.
     
  14. 95spiderman

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    They will figure out how to make turbos sound good. People didnt mind f40
     
  15. mclaudio

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    Loved the idea of turbo engines growing up, but actual driving experiences didn't meet expectations. Will keep an open mind with the latest generation.
     
  16. tbakowsky

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    Turbo charged cars have come a long way. Just drive the new bmw's. they have all but eliminated turbo lag. Infact they are so good you wouldn't even know the thing had a charger
     
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    Does anyone remember the Ferrari patent that was posted here multiple years ago that was a turbo design where the turbos were tucked into the V of the engine? If so, is this what the maseratis are using? Is the f1 engines using this tech as well?
     
  18. f-man

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    The near future is combo turbo fossil fuel and electric engines. The far future is hydrogen cars driven by the internet. It's going to get very exciting before it gets very boring.



    Check out the Jay Leno electric McClaren video on Youtube.
     
  19. qwertstnbir

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    I wonder how many customers disappointed with Ferrari turbo sound will move into Lamborghini.
     
  20. tbakowsky

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    I don't think that was a Ferrari only design. BMW uses tht setup now in the 5.5 V8 X6. Have been since 2008.. I think
     
  21. JG333SP

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    Also, I know I read that the orinigal Dino prod car (206/246) engine would have been built in the Fcar factory if they had the space space/facilities/resources. Of course these cars (as well as the early 308 Dinos) were not branded Ferrari-but I'd still consider this as Fcar building a V6
     
  22. selvatico

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    Save the 208 turbo, which is basically unknown outside of Italy and apparently New Zealand, Ferrari's past turbo efforts with the 288 GTO and F40 resulted in two of the most coveted cars ever built. Granted, they exist in another league when compared to the standard V8 and V12 Ferraris of the era, but at least they have proven that turbo charging doesn't lead to a less exhilarating experience.

    The one thing that does concerns me about going turbo is the sound. On a recent trip to Germany I was passed by a stunning black 458. Even before I saw the car I could tell it was a Ferrari by the sonorities emanating from the exhaust. Deep and rich, but at the same time screaming in a high soprano. Even my wife, who is completely indifferent to cars in general, couldn't deny the "sensuality" of the sound.

    For me, sound is one of the most integral components of a thrilling drive. The one thing I remember most about my first Ferrari drive is the sound. IMHO Ferrari have always done it best; I hope that doesn't change when they go turbo.
     
  23. rossocorsa13

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    People lament the future of production turbo engines in Ferraris, but always praise the F40.

    I share the lament re: ALL engines potentially being turbo (which may or may not happen, who knows), but if Ferrari ever builds another engine/driving experience similar to the F40, people will jump on very quickly. Those pops and whistles will always be evocative.
     
  24. 95spiderman

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    Only worry is n/a porsches sound great while their turbos are horrible. Will not be easy but ferrari will have to step it up
     
  25. JG333SP

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    Is the 288 a flat crank engine? I would imagine it is-just turbo charged. I've only seen one once being driven-but I can't remember how it sounded compared to a carb'd 308, etc. How does the 288 compare sound wise?
     

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