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All the Ferrari's at Amelia Island

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  1. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    #1 Timmmmmmmmmmy, Mar 1, 2018
    Amelia Island starts next week. Here are all the Ferrari's on offer at the three major auctions.

    1952 Ferrari 212 Europa Cabriolet 0233EU Gooding Amelia Island 9/03/2018 47 $1,800,000 $2,200,000 € 1,458,000 €1,782,000
    1956 Ferrari 410 Superamerica Coupe 0491SA Gooding Amelia Island 9/03/2018 36 $5,000,000 $6,000,000 € 4,050,000 €4,860,000
    1960 Ferrari 250GT Pininfarina Coupe 1745GT RM Amelia Island 10/03/2018 147 $600,000 $750,000 € 486,000 €607,500
    1962 Ferrari 250GTE engine and gearbox 3437 Gooding Amelia Island 9/03/2018 1 $100,000 $125,000 N/R € 81,000 €101,250
    1966 Ferrari 275GTB Alloy Longnose 8125 Gooding Amelia Island 9/03/2018 15 $2,500,000 $3,500,000 € 2,025,000 €2,835,000
    1966 Ferrari 275GTB 08603 RM Amelia Island 10/03/2018 148 $2,200,000 $2,500,000 € 1,782,000 €2,025,000
    1967 Ferrari 330GTC 09535 RM Amelia Island 10/03/2018 200 $475,000 $550,000 € 384,750 €445,500
    1968 Ferrari 330GTC 11427 Bonhams Amelia Island 8/03/2018 167 $550,000 $750,000 € 445,500 €607,500
    1971 Ferrari 365GTC/4 14891 RM Amelia Island 10/03/2018 137 $260,000 $290,000 € 210,600 €234,900
    1972 Ferrari 365GTB/4 15229 RM Amelia Island 10/03/2018 134 $525,000 $575,000 € 425,250 €465,750
    1973 Ferrari 365GTC/4 15609 Gooding Amelia Island 9/03/2018 65 $250,000 $300,000 € 202,500 €243,000
    1973 Ferrari 246 GTS 05724 RM Amelia Island 10/03/2018 125 $350,000 $400,000 € 283,500 €324,000
    1973 Ferrari 365GTS/4 16801 Bonhams Amelia Island 8/03/2018 137 $2,400,000 $2,700,000 € 1,944,000 €2,187,000
    1976 Ferrari 308GTB Vetroresina 19377 Gooding Amelia Island 9/03/2018 11 $275,000 $325,000 € 222,750 €263,250
    1978 Ferrari 308GTS 26567 Bonhams Amelia Island 8/03/2018 108 $60,000 $80,000 N/R € 48,600 €64,800
    1981 Ferrari 512BBi 38713 Bonhams Amelia Island 8/03/2018 105 $325,000 $400,000 € 263,250 €324,000
    1983 Ferrari 512BBi 43937 RM Amelia Island 10/03/2018 158 $200,000 $250,000 € 162,000 €202,500
    1988 Ferrari Testarossa 78188 RM Amelia Island 10/03/2018 192 $175,000 $225,000 N/R € 141,750 €182,250
    2000 Ferrari 550 Maranello 119587 Bonhams Amelia Island 8/03/2018 142 $135,000 $175,000 N/R € 109,350 €141,750
    2001 Ferrari 550 Barchetta 124147 Bonhams Amelia Island 8/03/2018 190 $430,000 $490,000 € 348,300 €396,900
    2002 Ferrari 575M 129484 Gooding Amelia Island 9/03/2018 21 $175,000 $225,000 N/R € 141,750 €182,250
    2003 Ferrari Enzo 133495 Gooding Amelia Island 9/03/2018 58 $2,400,000 $2,700,000 N/R € 1,944,000 €2,187,000
    2007 Ferrari 599GTB Fiorano 150621 Gooding Amelia Island 9/03/2018 67 $375,000 $475,000 € 303,750 €384,750
    2015 Ferrari 458 Speciale 211327 RM Amelia Island 10/03/2018 124 $370,000 $420,000 € 299,700 €340,200
    2017 Ferrari F12 70th Anniversary 226588 RM Amelia Island 10/03/2018 177 $550,000 $650,000 € 445,500 €526,500

    If anyone wants more information on these or any other lots on offer please check out www.autoauctionsmonthly.com
     
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    Great, thanks Tim.
     
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    #3 sixcarbs, Mar 2, 2018
    Hi Timothy,

    It looks to me like RM is more realistic (Lower) on their estimates than the other houses. Would you agree?

    Seems like a very high estimate on that Vetroresina.
     
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    1961 Ferrari 250 GTE Series I 2919 Motostalgia Amelia Island 9/10/2018 $500,000-$625,000 €406.200-€507.750
    1965 Ferrari 330 2+2 Series I 6813 Motostalgia Amelia Island 9/10/2018 $275,000-$355,000 €223.400-€288.400
     
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    #5 Timmmmmmmmmmy, Mar 2, 2018
    The Vetroresina has just had a $200k restoration so that must have factored heavily. I still think there is value at that level. It is rare, the first of a model in production til the late 1980s and a very pure design
     
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    #6 Smiles, Mar 2, 2018
    I didn't realize that there were now three auctions at Amelia.

    I'm going if anyone wants to meet up.

    And I agree with sixcarbs that RM has the most realistic estimates.

    Matt
     
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    #7 sixcarbs, Mar 2, 2018
    I was basing my value comment on this result you posted from RM Paris.

    "1976 Ferrari 308GTB Vetoresina 19751 RM Paris 7/02/2018 111 €150,000 €175,000 N/R € 132,250 $162,310 -12%"

    The car above is not the original color, even though a lot of people don't care.

    Having said that, sometimes you can spend more on it than it is worth.

    Looking forward to your report.
     
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    I think that there are 4 or 5 auctions at Amelia.
     
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    I can't imagine why they would accept the estimate unless the consignor has (very) high dollar car in the sale.
     
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    The sound track seems a bit muted..much better in real life! These are heading towards Dino territory.
     
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    #11 Timmmmmmmmmmy, Mar 3, 2018
    Hollywood Wheels and Motostalgia both offer auctions at Amelia Island but I only cover the big auction houses (Artcurial, Bonhams, Gooding & co., RM Sotheby's and Worldwide Auctions). Unfortunately many smaller and second tier firms neither offer results within a timely manner nor have the professionalism of the aforementioned. Doesn't mean they don't offer Ferrari nor anything other than a reason why I don't bother to offer coverage of them, hence my comment "offered at the three major auctions". I would be very happy for you to post any picture or feedback from any of the sales, the concours or anything relevant. Hope you have a fantastic trip.
     
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    #12 Timmmmmmmmmmy, Mar 3, 2018
    Please see my post above
     
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    #13 Timmmmmmmmmmy, Mar 3, 2018
    Just a thought but that car was not afforded the care that Goodings example has been. I think the collector that wants the very best may regard the goodings example expensive but worth it. The craziest car is the 250GT at RM that is estimated at $600 - 750k, that has just received a $600k restoration by Motion Products, again it may appeal to a perfectionist, otherwise its just flippin expensive.
     
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    #14 sixcarbs, Mar 3, 2018
    Wow, I just looked at that 250 GT. That car is gorgeous! Looks brand new. Says $958,000 spent on it. Crazy!

    What's going to happen if the stock market collapses and all of these collectibles are next? What was that car worth 10 years ago?
     
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    #15 Timmmmmmmmmmy, Mar 3, 2018
    Your average 250GT is worth perhaps half that (roughly) and will drop if the Ferrari market tanks. What you do with the money if not cars is another question.
     
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    #16 Smiles, Mar 3, 2018
    The 1990s has the answer.

    There will be a lot of fully restored cars for sale at prices that are less than the cost of the restoration alone.

    Matt
     
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    #17 275gtb6c, Mar 8, 2018
    Why?
    RM moved the auction one day earlier....from March 10 to March 9.....what if you booked a room and ticket? Perhaps not the best idea in such a short notice...

    The Amelia Island auction has been moved to Friday, March 9, beginning at 3:00 PM EDT. The Amelia Island Concours will take place Saturday, March 10. Preview will remain open from 8:00 AM to 3:00 PM on March 9.

    Ciao
    Oscar
     
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    #18 Timmmmmmmmmmy, Mar 8, 2018
    Keep the customers safe, first and foremost I guess. RM Sotheby's will ensure their big dollar clients are very well looked after but how many legit big dollar bidders are in the tent rather than on the phones or internet bidding?
     
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    #19 GuyIncognito, Mar 8, 2018
    the Daytona spider was listed as sold at $2.45mm , but amended to not sold?
     
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    #20 Smiles, Mar 8, 2018
    I don't know what happened, but that car was simply awesome.

    Matt
     
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    #21 Terra, Mar 8, 2018
    No sale. High bid was $2.2 million.
     
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    #22 KenGoldman, Mar 9, 2018
    High bid does not mean that there was an actual bid
    Read the terms:
    Auctioneer May place bids on behalf of the seller up to the reserve, including several consecutive bids!!!
     
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    #23 GuyIncognito, Mar 9, 2018
    OK thanks
     
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    #24 Timmmmmmmmmmy, Mar 9, 2018
    Was listed elsewhere as sold but maybe, just maybe it was an unqualified bidder (with no $2.4 million ready to go) or a shill bidding and then ended up "holding the baby" so to speak. Either way very strange. Gooding this morning has been a bit of a washout, Porsche RSR Turbo and Ferrari's 410SA and 212 all failing to sell
     
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    #25 Prancing 12, Mar 9, 2018
    FWIW, a friend of mine bid on the Daytona Spider, so there was at least some real bidding on the car.
     
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