allure of the Porsche

Exactly, and in Sweden and other Scandanavian countries, gorgeous blondes are a dime a dozen. Wouldn't want one of those, either. VRRRROMM!

 

i have owned and driven many p cars the past 15 years, i would have to agree with you.... they certainly dont turn heads with their current styling and the performance is good but many cars can match or excede the p car perfroance these days...even the new 997 hasnt really increased the performance much

 

LOL!

 

Your comments are the sort made by car owners, not car enthusiasts.

 

i think that you may be correct in saying that porsche has lost sight of its' core group however i fear this can be said of many great manufacturers.

porsche w/ the suv...whatever happened to "we build sportscars"?? of well.

ferrari and the mass production of the 360. anyone w/ a few coins to rub together can have one.

bmw...ah i still remember my 2002 tii and my csl. those days are long gone.

my advice...buy the cars of older vintage. they are the best value proposition and in the case of my 930 or 512 bbi, they can still boil your blood!!!

pcb

 

It's not what you drive, man. It's your state of mind that I was referencing- the sort of mentality that takes the time to stop and think "Gee, Porsches are so yesterday."
Porsche has alienated a certain % of its core customer base by building the cayanne and other "mundane" models; however, that doesn't have any impact on the "allure" - if the current Porsche don't twist your braids, then go for an older car. Your outright discrimination generalizes the entire marque.
Porsche may have "sold out," but at least they're still good to look at - unlike the Bangelized beemers.
My point was: your commment implied that Porsches (past & present) have lost their allure because their bought up in drovers -that's ridiculous; if you don't care for the 996TT, go out and get a 930T. The brand isn't dead, nor is its mystique and racing heritage - if you're looking to blame someone for the watering down of the market, blame all the Joneses' that buy land barge SUVS; the very people that put a stanglehold on the sportscar market to begin with.

 

And every Ferrari in the world is the fastest? Best looking?
Not everyone looks for top speed or flat out acceleration. People buy cars for different reasons. To slander an entire company that has a rich racing past is a little nutty.

 

I have a 996 and it is a hoot to drive (every day). Much more reliable than my 355, but with much less soul (I didn't like the look of the 996 at first and have had to let it grow on me). However, it has a wonderfully balanced nature and can be driven very, very fast on all kinds of roads in all kinds of conditions and can still haul around me, my wife, and my two kids in the back seat. And with the GT-3 Aero Kit it is unusual, but then I don't live in Orange County where every high school kid drives a $40K car. Overall, it's a great car and shouldn't be discounted by those who want to be "unusual". Just like the Swedish blonde comment above... just 'cuz everyone's got one doesn't mean it ain't fun to drive.

I will say, however, that my old 1985 Turbo-look cabriolet (shown here) was more of an eye-catcher in its day and still has an allure that is tough to match. Buy one of these (under $25K) and you'll be happy and unusual (only about 500 of them came to the U.S for the entire 1985-1989 production run).
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More silly crap. So you live in a nice neighborhood where people know the value of a buck and your complaining? The lack of reality by some on this thread and board is why i seldom visit here anymore. Wake up. Dollar for dollar porsche is pretty tough to beat. Might you turn your head for a carrera GT? The pepper wagon while not my favorite has a phenomenal powerplant, with what 475 real hp, remind me what the beautiful 360 produces.
Stop reinforcing each other's rose colored view of reality. Porsche has a longer heritage than ferrari and equally as impressive in motorsports and construction. You do not need to tear something else down in order to feel good about your own situation unless you are not happy with it. Of Ferrari's 4 current models only 1 will stand the test of time. even still;

http://www.lad.lv/~martini/porsche/Videos/FerrariF360Modenavs996Turbo.mpeg

A little more reality and a little less back slapping would help here.
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So do you think Ferrari's target audience is "the true enthusiast"? You're far more likely to see a Ferrari parked in front of a swank restaurant than on a spirited drive on the back roads.

 

you are absolutely correct. In CA, we are very spoiled. I refer to the 911s as cars "waiters and waitresses and poor people" drive. Yes I say it jokingly, before you guys jump down my throat.

They are dime a dozen. I know that doesn't make it a bad car, but just my observation of the sheer number of cars. People in LA are truly saturated with cars, that they don't turn heads anymore. I mean I know people who have 1 360, 1 CS, and one Bentley. Those are the weekend toys, and the daily driver is a GT2. How sick is that? We think its normal. Then again, I live in a place where condos go for 580-660K on a normal basis. Heck on my morning commute over the past few weeks, I have seen 6-7 ferraris, 1 Carrera GT, one Ford Gt, 3-4 Bentleys, and 2 new rolls and 1 orange murcielago. CA is crazy.

I agree 996 draws crowd plenty of places, but not in LA.

 

Drawing crowds or not, most people who don't like porsches have never driven one. They are an absolute blast to drive around a track. Even a C4 which probably the least fun in the dry.

 

Who said I didnt like P cars?

Been searching for a yellow 993TT for a while.

 

I have never driven it, but the C4 i drove was a 993. I guess I'll just take that memory, and make everything about 50% better ... woah

 

I totally agree with you. I love P cars. I want to clarify that.
Yes towns that have 650K condos, have mil+ homes

 

Maybe Porsche as a brand has lost some of it's luster.

The cars are still wonderful and if you want "exclusive" and "rare", well that's why god gave coachbuilding skills to the British and the Italians.