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ALONSO: ¨I Dont Dislike Hamilton, I Dislike McLaren´

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  1. RP

    RP F1 World Champ

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    Fernando Alonso says his desire to see Felipe Massa win the world championship in Brazil this weekend is nothing personal against Lewis Hamilton - but purely because he does not want former team McLaren to triumph.

    The Spaniard endured a turbulent season with McLaren last year, cutting short his contract with the team at the end of the season so he could return to Renault.

    Having been widely quoted in recent weeks as saying he would rather see Massa win the championship over Hamilton, Alonso has made it clear on the eve of the title showdown in Brazil why he has such feelings.

    When asked why it appeared matters were so personal with Hamilton, Alonso said: "No, they are not with him. I told many times that I have great respect to Lewis and we speak together.

    "Last year was the same thing. We were in the drivers' room, we speak together and we had no problems. But I think I will always prefer any team other than McLaren to win."

    Alonso thinks there is little doubt that Hamilton will achieve the fifth place he needs in Brazil to be able to win the championship.

    "Lewis is the clear favourite. He is seven points ahead and here, if he finishes the race, it will be enough to win the championship. In the top five (is easy because) he is quick enough to win the championship. So Lewis is going to win."

    And Alonso has played down any fears of the title battle being overshadowed by Hamilton or Massa suffering an incident at the hands of their rivals.

    "I think nothing will happen, or hopefully nothing will happen," explained Alonso. "I don't see any possibility of someone crashing with Felipe or crashing with Lewis.

    "The race will be very, very clean, I hope. And theoretically they will finish both in the podium – this is a normal situation and a normal race."
     
  2. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

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    Yep I say fair enough. The team did not give him a fair go (as I have always said), they put all their efforts into Lewis. If I was a 2 times WDC I'd have been pretty pissed off too. I still remember the team comments after his (Alonso's with McLaren) first test, something like "Yeah he did alright, pretty quick" ... totally demeaning. Heck ofcourse the guy is quick.

    The team hated him from the start, why the heck they hired him I do not know? ... to make Lewis look good?. No need. To snck car development out of him?, probably.

    Anyway hopefully mature people will start finally seeing that Alonso was in the right at McLaren and not the other way around as so many like to preach. Yes he could have handled it better ... but would you honestly have?
    Pete
     
  3. regaliaconcours

    regaliaconcours Formula Junior

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    I have always been of the opinion that Ron Dennis was caught by surprise at how quick Hamilton came into his own in F1(who was'nt). I think he thought he would get a good couple of years out of Alonso as lead driver and bring Lewis along as the # 2 during that time, THEN deal with the drivers dilema after that if there was one. I don't think even Ron could have predicted Lewis would be that good that soon. Being Ron's prodigy and team favorite put Fernando in an immediate untenable situation, especially since Alonso had to have been promised all that goes with being the 2 time WDC by Ron to get him there. Under these circumstances(my opinion only!) it's not hard to understand his feelings about McLaren. Regards, Mike Regalia
     
  4. Senna1994

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    One of the best posts ever, although I agree with Pete above as well. Lewis was a phenom that even Ron didn't see...However, they should have deferred to Fernando last year.
     
  5. tactical

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    I am not sure if alonso speaks the truth on this matter, i am 50-50 on what he said. He could be telling the truth yes, but he could also have realized how is comments like "helping Massa" sounded and is trying to back track.
    So i dont know personally.
     
  6. tactical

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    Yep a good opinion:)
     
  7. Nembo1777

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    Contrary to what he brags, Dennis has no capacity whatsoever to manage latin drivers. He failed at the end with Senna, he failed with Juan Pablo and he failed with Alonso.
     
  8. DeSoto

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    A mature comment indeed: "if you don´t agree with me you are not a mature person..."

    Oh, yeah!
     
  9. Etcetera

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    We are all missing the biggest benefit when Mclaren wins the WDC this year.

    Ron Dennis will see it as his time to retire.

    Lewis will win and Dennis will retire. Fair trade off, imho.
     
  10. rmani

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    i agree. mclaren always have been adamant that it's their cars that make the driver, not the other way around. after getting brutal beaten by ferrari for years on end mclaren were desperate for another championship, and that's why they went after alonso. i think ron was genuinely surprised with just how well Hamilton worked for the team, and then realized they didn't need alonso after all and that's where it all went bad. i never argued that alonso did not deserve preferential treatment (any reigning wdc should IMO), but alonso also handled the situation badly. even when he was winning with renault he had some pretty bratty moments and was condescending towards fisichella at times.
     
  11. LightGuy

    LightGuy Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Alonso was jealous of LH to the point of not sharing set up info, which I suppose is his perrogative, just not normal.
    Supposedly FA and DeLaRossa attained this inside set up info from Ferrari (this still baffles me as to its worth since these are separate chassis)which they kept to themselves and then later used to stab Mclaren in the back to break his contract. Machiavellian to the extreme and unforgivable even to other teams observing the situation.
    Even as such LH finished ahead of FA in the standings his rookie year. Again; against a 2X WDC and IMO the most "complete" driver on the grid.
    How this feat fails to impress LH skeptics always amazes me.
     
  12. kraftwerk

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    #12 kraftwerk, Oct 31, 2008
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    FA also wanted to give his engineers cash incentives to help him beat LH, IIRC RD stopped it, I have no problem with that however, LH did lose ground to FA towards the later half of the season, although this does not in any way discredit LH achievements. The WDC is the single most important feat in F1. LH has already won it IMO.

    BTW RD lets his drivers race each other I don't care what others think, they lost the WDC last year because of it, so why should he have let FA have lead role, if he was not beating LH...it's called cheating anyway...:rolleyes:
     
  13. PSk

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    You've misquoted what I said and changed the meaning. I meant I would like people to give Alonso's viewpoint some credit ... as always both parties can have their view but it CAN be different, because ofcourse they see things differently.

    I also agree with the comments that LH came up to speed quicker than expected, but with the modern (especially McLaren) F1 car ... hardly surprising.
    Pete
     

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