Hey ladies and gentlemen First off, thank you for opening this thread and taking the time to have input. I saw my first 458 today in SoCal (to purchase), and the car just wasn't what I expected as far as condition goes. It was a used 2012, but had rock chips, cracks, and even small body damage it seems. Am I expecting too much? Is this what a used Ferrari would look like regardless? Short list of issues : 1) Rear diffuser cracked 2) Lower passenger skirt cracked, and due to this, looks like the rear lower quarter panel shifted and is slightly loose. 3) Paint scratches 4) Rock chips 5) Small dents on hood and several places Due to this, I low balled the offer. I feel the car just didn't meet my standard. However, are my standards simply too high to be expected of a used car? I don't mean to enter a journey to find a perfect car that statistically isn't probable. I've attached pictures to illustrate the image. Thank you for your time and input. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Those conditions to me, would be acceptable on a used 70,000 mile Prius that I'm buying to beat on. NOT for a 2012 Ferrari or anything more than a 70k mile Prius. That damage is also indicative of how the previous owner may have driven and treated that car. Also account for care and maintenance that may have been overlooked or ignored.
Phew. So it sounds like I should be passing on this particular vehicle? My fear is the damage will absolutely hurt me in resell
^ 100% agreed, I would not being willing to own that car for any amount of money, what do you think about posting the vin for potential future buyers?
The reason that car looks like that is because that car has been beat to hell! Stay away. There are PLENTY of better ones out there. There is no such thing as a cheap Ferrari! Buy a good one and you will actually save money.
To be fair to the dealer, I don't want to scare away potential buyers. The sales rep was a respectful, and very likable young gentleman. I'd like to refrain hurting any sort of business on their end. Nonetheless, I will say the car is in SoCal. I hope everyone does a vigilant visual inspection regardless of the purchase.
I shopped for a 458 in SoCal for almost 6 months before I saw the "one" I considered a 2011 white from a lambo dealer with 12K? miles on it for a good price but it was kinda used a lot. Saw a private seller with a 2012 458 in my neighborhood that same day and bought it on the spot. 6800 miles but in much better condition and Rosso Corsa! It only cost 10K more! Good luck on your 458 search. I guess i learned from this not to try to save money but get the "one" that just screams at you!
Stone chips I can understand, sometimes they're unavoidable and Ferrari paint is not the best out there. The cracks and scuffs on the other hand show disrespect towards the car and indicate an owner that didn't take very good care of her. I'm sure you'll find "the one" out there.
was this car at a ferrari dealership? I hope not. i've been searching ferrari dealers exclusively hoping to avoid this..
There are very few , if any, deals of the century on high performance cars. A very low price indicates severe problems. A car in poor cosmetic condition is a sure fire sign that the owner neglected the car in every area. Do not settle for a car that looks anything but almost pristine. You will regret it later on.
Pass on it. This is garbage unless the price totally reflects the repair costs. There are tons of creampuff 458s out there that are flawless and barely have even been driven. No reason to pay for a beat up car unless it's dirt cheap.
Seems like acceptable condition should he a function of price right? Was it priced accordingly? Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
Agree with the Mayor. This Fcar has been abused...there are plenty of well cared for used 458's for you to buy.
Huh? Rear diffusers crack all the time in transport trucks...a known problem with Italias "bouncing" in transport and bottoming out. A simple fix. A few rock chips and scuffs mean it has miles on it and been driven. How people can proclaim "this car has been abused" from a few pix is beyond me. Once again furthering the image of panzy poser owners polishing their cars and staring at them in their garages while sipping merlot and wearing puma shoes. If the price is right and the PPI checks out...then make your own decision rather than listening to the peanut gallery here. My only concern would be the seeming lack of interest in presenting the car correctly with some minor cosmetic work before putting it on the market...that might (...might...) speak to other potential issues of disregard and lack of respect for the car and customer.
I'm not sure it's indicative of a car which has been abused, it has 30k+ miles on it and is priced accordingly. The most important thing is being able to purchase without any regrets. If you're okay with the issues, they're just cosmetic and can be fixed, so factor that into what you'd offer and get a very thorough PPI done. I searched and found the car you're talking about. It looks like it's completely loaded with options (carbon fiber dash, center console, parking cameras, led steering wheels, etc.). Personally, I'd be willing to pay more to pay more for a car in perfect condition but I disagree with the others here that it's implicitly been abused. PPI, service records (since it's a 2012, a Ferrari dealer should be able to pull this all up) will tell you what you need to know. All that said, I hope you're searching nationwide to buy a car like this. I happened to find mine in SoCal but was willing to buy from whoever had the right/best car for me.