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Am I paying 2 much?????

Discussion in 'Other Italian' started by odythedog, Apr 19, 2004.

  1. odythedog

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    $91000 for a 1987 countach that has been well cared for and gone over by will degroot at exotic works.It has not had the clutch replaced and it has 13000 kms.---The car can be viewed at www.zrauto.com look under exotics.$91000 american works out to $119000 canadian...Thanks for your opinions.The owner also told me that I shouldnt let the car sit for more than a month at a time and in our canadian winters I dont know how in the heck I would get it out for a spin in dec or jan....Opinions?????Thank you
     
  2. ryalex

    ryalex Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I'm not super familiar with Lambo values, but from what I know -given the condition it appears to be in that seems like a fair price. You might have better luck PM'ing the Countach owners here and seeing what they think privately. I think 6.0se just bought his.
     
  3. Kds

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    119,000 CAD less the 6.1% import duty is 112,158 CAD.

    Less the $3,000 CAD estimated freight from a southern US location to Edmonton brings you down to 109,158 CAD.....

    At today's "Bank of Canada nominal cash" rate that equals 77,819 USD.

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    Currency conversion results
    Using cash rate of 4%
    Date: 109,158 in Canadian dollars equals: Exchange rate:
    19 Apr 2004 77,819.46 US dollars (noon) 0.7426 (1.3466)

    "That" is the dollar benchmark for comparison sake to US cars in the marketplace......not $ 91,000.

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    Good luck........
     
  4. 6.0 se

    6.0 se F1 Rookie
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    Thats a tough one because of the clutch issue.There have been exceptions,but normally a clutch would have been done by now.That doesnt infer that it needs one....I have had 6 or 7 countaches,and every car either had a clutch done prior to me buying it,or I bought it with the knowledge that it would be 10k for a new one soon.I know of a couple of countaches with high mileage that have never had it done,but again,I think thats an exception.91k us would be ok for a 8000 mile 87 in outstanding condition,but I would have to plan on +10k on top of that,and that would be very high.You should be able to have a pristine 87 countach with 8k miles for 85-90,serviced and ready to go.I viewed the pics,white/white is killer.The other small issue is the wing.Only because of resale in the U.S.,most are more desirable with a wing.Alot of people like them without,me included,but the resale is lower in the U.S. without a wing.Not a big deal though. A.J.
     
  5. 6.0 se

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    That changes the whole picture then.It is a good deal even if you have to spend 10k down the road on a clutch,if you could buy it for 77k U.S.
     
  6. 6.0 se

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    As far as it sitting for a month,thats really not a problem,as long as you do a normal amount of what I call garage driving.I have a checklist I got along time ago when I bought my first Countach.It describes some measures to take if the car is not driven often.Works well.
     
  7. odythedog

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  8. 6.0 se

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    Well,I will give you the short version.The motor needs to run every 72hrs,and cycle through its warm-up operation.Every 2weeks,you should pull a Ferris Bueller.Wheels turning,where you can apply brakes,etc.Its easy once you set up a system,and kinda fun.If you spend about 4hrs a week,you can keep the car in top shape even with extended garage stints.There is more to it than this,but easy stuff.
     
  9. Kds

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    Ody....

    You may want to send a pm to:

    ralfabco

    He curently owns a Countach of the vintage you describe and is a regular poster here as well.
     
  10. ryalex

    ryalex Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I wonder if any hard-core guys have installed dyno wheels in their garages just to run their cars during the winter months. Kind of a hamster wheel for your car.
     
  11. 6.0 se

    6.0 se F1 Rookie
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    LOL.Im sure someones done it.Really though,any 15-20 year old car that is put up for awhile needs some attention.The Countach definately needs this care during down time.
     
  12. qvpower

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    Can you give me the long version?
     
  13. odythedog

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    that after 72 hours the seals begin to dry out????4 hours a week seems like an awful lot of monking around just to keep this thing alive....I just want to own a countach not a day care.
     
  14. 6.0 se

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    I dont do anything different to a countach that I do to my 69z28 if its going to sit.If you want to let it sit for an extended period of time,any older car that is,either put it in mothballs or spend a little time on it.If you cant or dont want to do that,you run the risk of a problem.I start my new cars a couple times a week,if Im not driving them.There is a big difference in it drying out or keeping it well conditioned.Im sure you could get away with no care.I wouldnt take that chance on any car,but I enjoy keeping them in top shape.Ok,heres the real short of it.Start it once in a while,let it cycle fluids,put it in gear,roll it a few feet,back it up,pump the brakes,clutch,put weight on the shocks front and rear.That will probably get by on any old war horse.Maybe 60 minutes a week.I was trying to give you the ultimate package for extended garage time.
     

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