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Amazing Price for a European F12... What price would force you to pull the trigger?

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  1. Farris

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    #1 Farris, Jun 2, 2013
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    Guys I have just been offered a late 2012 F12, Nero with 8000 miles and not heavily optioned. It is a left hand drive car (I am based in London and will be using it there... RHD) located on the European continent.

    As I was ready to pull the trigger on a 2010 458 with 6,500 miles this week, this requires stretching the budget more than I would like, unless it is one hell of a deal.

    What would be considered a price too good to pass on? It is from what I can tell a distressed sale and the car lists in Europe for about 275k Euros plus options and then 20% taxes. I have seen a few cars for sale around 225k Euros plus tax with lower mileage and 2013 builds.

    Thanks
     
  2. Joker

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    List price in EU is €228k + options and VAT, not €275k. With some decent options you end up at ~€250-260k + VAT.

    I haven't seen 2nd hand cars for much less that list yet. 8000 miles is a tad on the heavy side for such a new car. To be honest I'd order new, or wait and see what happens with the F12 market.
     
  3. Farris

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    Thanks!

    So the 275k plus options must have been with the 20% tax. I would never pay list for a car with that sort of mileage.

    I am only interested in this car if a great deal can be had substantially below list. If a hell of a deal can't be had, I will stay within my intended budget and go for the 458, despite loving the F12.

    Can you please advise would would be a too good to say no price?
     
  4. Joker

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    Personally I'd say something like 20-25% off. I know it sounds a lot, but the V12's historically in Europe has been terrible at holding value. Just ask the guys trying to trade in a 599 for an F12 (you can get a 599 for <€100k). I've heard of several people cancelling their F12's since they couldn't get a decent price for their 599s.

    If the F12 follows the 599 you'll see perhaps a year or two more with good prices, and then it starts to drop like a rock. Right now there is about a years wait for the F12 - if you're an old customer you might be able to get one sooner (was offered a new one late this year).

    Keep in mind once you put your own mileage on the car over the next couple years you end up with a lot of total miles. It really depends on how long you plan to keep, how much you drive etc etc, and whether you can live with LHD in the UK.
     
  5. Farris

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    So would you say 20% to 25% off the base price or off the msrp of the car when it was new with options?

    Thanks Joker
     
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    Off total list price (options lose more value than base price).

    The thing is - much less, and you might as well get a new one. Why bother with - say - 10% off for 8k miles, when you can get a new one in 12 months (with the options/color you want). Thats just my opinion anyway.
     
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    Any chance you mean FF instead of F12?
     
  8. Flo400

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    Well 25% off is probably too much but 230-240k would be very tempting and soon cars will appear available at that price.
     

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