so it is almost 1 sec slower than claimed by Ferrari. Official time 0-200kmh (124mph) is 7.8sec. tested above with 8.7 sec weight 1741kg messured, witch is also above the official weight
Typical AMUS (together with Autocar, one of the worst automotive rags) BS!!! https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/812-superfast-instrument-tested-by-quattroruote-magazine.567511/
AMS measures with co– pilot and not with 1 foot roll out. But 488 GTB reached in AMS test also 8.7 s 0–200, 488 GTB has an advantage of about 70 hp due to 200 kg less weight. I know the test area , airfield in Lahr Germany where AMS and Sportauto measures, asphalt not all too grippy, but Mc Laren 720 S went in 7.4 s 0–200 in AMS test there. Ferrari specs 0–200 without co – pilot and with 1 foot roll–out. This improves 0–200 kph times about 0.6 s. But also 8.7 s 0–200 with co – pilot and none 1 foot roll– out is ok for 1741 kg car. But 812 S is not a car competing in acceleration races to 720 S with 320 kg less weight.
German Auto Zeitung and Auto Bild Sport Cars measure without co – pilot, this improves 100–200 kph times at about 0.3 s. But Ferrari 7.8 s qouted 0–200 kph ist too optimistic, 1 – foot roll out improves 0 – 100 kph at rwd cars, in Europe we measure from start.
As far as I know, the QR also measures with 2 people on board. Ferrari doesn't clock with 1ft roll out either, that's the american way.
This car won’t do 200 kph in under 8 seconds I’d wager but it’s still massively quick. And the 720S running 2.8/7.4/19.2 in the AMS test is a super time for that magazine. As stated, no rollout, two people in the car, full tank. But it’s not fair to compare a front engine super GT to the 720S.
i agree it is not fair, but Ferrari advertise this car with 7,8sec 0-200kmh, so it should be possible to question this time. Same goes to the weight, 1750kg is heavier than claimed
Interestung is the high weight of 1741 kg, AMS car has lightest seats ( racing seats ), the seats reduce weight about 25 kg. You can compare 812 S to 720 S 100 – 200 kph and here was 720 S 1 second faster in AMS test, not surprising, 720 S is 320 kg lighter and engines have more than qouted 720 S, 690 – 700 whp seems to be typical. But 1630 kg curb weight is qouted, big difference to measured 1741 kg in AMS. Dry weight of 1525 kg has the same sense as curb weight without wheels...
Most manufacturers find the best time from many many runs under various conditions. These times are very unlikely to be repeated by a magazine that has to take what it gets on a specific day. Without using names I was involved in the launch of a particular vehicle in a certain market. Quoted 0-100km/h was 3.5s which we managed to verify once. Mostly the time was between 4 and 4.2s. Guess what went on the spec sheet. We know the car can do 3.5s under the right conditions but it takes a lot of experimentation to get there. When you have full tank of fuel and a second body in the car, plus the car is a well used press car and may not have lightest specification, this 812 time is understandable. And still extremely fast....
Very valid. Seems like Porsche and Mclaren take the opposite approach though. They post times that are easily achievable in all road situations, which is why we constantly see both companies cars perform far better than their mfg specs.
It's not even a second quicker to 124mph than an Enzo with 130hp more, new tech gearbox and new tech rubbers?
It tested way quicker than an Enzo over all the increments, despite similar power to weight ratio. It is also quicker around Fiorano (no Surprise) except that the increment is even bigger around the shorter and twistier Vairano. That’s impressive given the weight and both stories reflect the newer tech in the heavier car. Perhaps even more surprising is the fact the 812 tests quicker than the 600kg lighter but only 170hp less McLaren F1 with its significantly better power to weight ratio. That is a good demonstration of what 20 years of technology has been able to do. The F1 though....it’s still the best ever McLaren and better than most Ferraris too. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Don't forget the tires. The tires on an Enzo and McLaren F1 are like ice compared to modern tires. I wouldn't be surprised if an Enzo on modern tires was still quicker than the latest Ferrari offerings. There was a test done like 5 years ago where an Enzo did like 7:20 on the NR with new tires. You could probably cut 10-20s off that time if you again use the latest Michelin Cup2 R tires.
