Andretti Global F1 team

Another piece of the puzzle is back in play. A shame that Liberty and the FIA no longer have any interest in racing. They could take a clue from the qualifying model. Have 11 or even 12 teams...but only the fasted 18 qualifiers take the starting grid. Same with the sprint races.

 

So one expends 1Bil$ for a team and then it not allowed to race lol. Yes thats going to work with those well funded ego players

 

Round and round -

Famin: Renault willing to resume Andretti F1 talks
Alpine Formula 1 interim team principal Bruno Famin says that Renault is still willing to supply power units to Andretti if the American outfit gets an entry.

 

Unrealistic ...

 

Ferrari not a complete fan of another team in an open sense. No surprise but to say that the US needs more popularity is funny. 3 races etc already. What do they want 10?

https://f1i.com/news/496831-vasseur-american-drivers-not-teams-will-spur-f1-growth-in-us.html

Vasseur: American drivers, not teams, will spur F1 growth in US

Ferrari team boss Fred Vasseur believes that a successful American driver on the grid is more important to Formula 1’s long-term success in the US market than an American team.

Formula 1 has been making significant strides in expanding its presence in the United States, with three races – Miami, Austin and Las Vegas – now being held in the country.

The Haas team and Williams charger Logan Sargeant currently fly the American flag in F1, but many believe that the addition of Andretti-Cadillac as an eleventh team on the grid would carry the sport’s recognition to the next level in North America.

Vasseur, however, remains unconvinced that an additional team hailing from the US – even one bearing such a household name as Andretti – is the key to unlocking the US market's full potential.

The Scuderia boss thinks that having a successful and charismatic American driver competing at the highest level would be a more effective catalyst for fan growth and overall interest in the sport.

Andretti’s bid to join the grid remains under consideration by Formula One Management who are evaluating whether the US outfit would add necessary value to the series.

Vasseur isn’t dismissing Andretti’s presence outright. But the Frenchman notes that Formula 1’s foundation has significantly evolved – for the better – since the most recent Concorde Agreement was drawn up several years ago.

“For me, having an 11th team and another manufacturer is fine, why not? But we have to keep in mind that, when we opened the doors to an 11th team four-five years ago, the situation was completely different from the current one,” Vasseur argued.

“Regarding the Concordat Agreement, Ferrari was there, Mercedes was there. Honda was almost out. Renault thought it would continue. It means that there were two manufacturers and one engine supplier who would continue for another 5 years.

“We agreed on an 11th team, but if this team had not reached an agreement with even just one of the 10 teams present in Formula 1 and had wanted to enter as a manufacturer of cars and engines, we would have had to find a solution for the well-being of F1.

“Today we are in a somewhat confusing situation. We have 6 engine suppliers, and some of my colleagues are saying that there are too many because we would like to have two teams for each power unit supplier and we are not in that situation.

“Going back to what was said before, even for the current situation it’s not a question of the team, but of the nationality of the drivers.”

 

Correction: there is actually one proper race and two tawdry carnivals.

 

Correct of course. Austin IS the F1 race.

 

Bring back Watkins Glen !!

 

WHAT UTTER RUBBISH !!!

I love Ferrari and Ferraris. Just under half a century ago - 46 years - I acquired from Luigi Chinetti my first Ferrari, the 365GTC speciale built by Enzo Ferrari for his friend Leopoldo Pirelli, CEO of Pirelli SpA. I have since owned nine more Ferraris. I also own two Cadillacs, a 2008 CTS and a 2006 STS-V that I keep as the halo car that it was and is.

Vasseur's stated belief is a direct affront to the United States and to all car-loving Americans. For him to denigrate an American Formula 1 team, especially one led by Andretti incorporating engines supplied by the iconic American automobile brand, Cadillac, is nothing less than a lot of insulting rubbish! . Vasseur should be ashamed of himself and must reverse his decision and apologize to American car-lovers.

 

MS was a German driver in an Italian team and Germany was supportive. There is truth to Vasseur's words. Sorry. Andretti is hardly a name that means utter success in all endeavors and Herta is where in the Indy Car world. He is not the end all be all driver Andretti was pushing last year. An affront lol. Really? Afront to what. Driving for a team is not all about nationality or nationalism. Grow up. Apology for nothing. He has a voice and Im not sure anyone was offended. He is more of an expert than most in F1. Properly successful and positioned by marketing and image management, a good US F1 driver can garner support. Your wrong. Stop the flag waving LOL. Its not about anyone's flag. F1 is utterly world-wide. I guess only Italians should own a Ferrari yes ????? LOLLLLLLLLL

By the way if Andretti were to enter the grid soon, he will be using FRENCH MOTOR.

 

Some people are hilarious and you are being gentle, well done.

 

not flag waving Marc, simply outlining turf

BTW, datelined - 14 November 2023:

GM Registers as a Formula 1 Power Unit Manufacturer
Andretti Cadillac F1 entry will be powered by a GM power unit starting in 2028 - see below

https://media.cadillac.com/content/media/us/en/cadillac/home.detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2023/nov/1114-cadillac.html

keep laughing

 

GM's statement is meaningless until Andretti is accepted in the club.
The approval of Andretti Global application to enter F1 by the FIA doesn't mean they are in.
Andretti must now obtain the acceptance from FOM (Liberty), and the 10 existing teams.
Several teams have voiced their opposition, and the negotiations seem to have stalled.

 

I am all for Michael getting the nod to join F1 though they will make him pay through the nose, if, IF it happens. Here for the record even though I am European I side with Michael when he says they are shutting him out unfairly.

However the team will use a Renault/Alpine engine at least the first year and after that we will see what GM can do, though I have serious doubts they can play at that level of technology. We would need an American driver but Herta seems less sharp these days, Newgarden is not interested so maybe Kirkwood?

 

Michael is a bit ridiculous in all this. Shutting out lol. He is on record in the press stating he would be doing the same as the current teams, in resisting or not being in favor of his funds being diluted by a new team. Also this is the pet project of the idiot leading the FIA. No team or Liberty asked for a new team. This is being imposed. Sorry but Andretti actually is a major hypocrite in all this. On record.

 

Where does the IMSA Cadillac engine come from ? That's the best GM has delivered so far.

An American driver would need to obtain a Superlicence; among the name proposed, not many qualify for it.

 

Andretti need to be practical early if they are on the grid. Get the best driver they can to get them established and it matters little where he is from. Chapman cared not that Mario was an American. He cared about WINNING!

 

I was at Le Mans for practice in june and can confirm it sounds as good as it goes. That being said the needed F1 engine is extremely different from anything GM has ever done and it will be a major challenge for them. New territory with no reference points.

 

Certainly that particular experience will assist them in the F1 effort! Will be interesting to see how it develops.

 

It could be that the engine at the back of the Cadillac is derived from 4-cam Corvette.

 

I suppose Ilmor would provide something of a reference point...

 

You repeat this frequently but saying he “would not be in favor of his funds being diluted by a new team” (quoting you, not Andretti) is not the same as saying “I would vote against any new team coming in.” My read between the lines is different than yours…unless you can find a confirmed quote otherwise…that he understands their position in wanting to protect their financial condition, but that is diplomatic, not him advocating that they shut him out because he would do the same. If that is actually what he said it was dumb, but ultimately meaningless.

 

He said he would do the same - if he was in their position. This is an FIA only 'good idea' not at all the teams or Liberty. Andretti negotiating in public - very stupid!
Exactly the same - implying a financial negative.

 

He didn’t say he would vote against a new team….unless somebody can produce the quote,

 

Andretti 2025 F1 model revealed....possible debut in 2025.