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Annual maintenance $$ cost for Dino?

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  1. Husker

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    I currently own a 348ts. The annual repairs and maintenance are practically nill, aside from fluid changes and that 30K service every 5 to 7 years.

    On the Dino...how much $$ does it take annually to keep a nice one in good working order? Are they reliable? Do they require constant attention?

    Thanks in advance for your responses, Dino owners.
     
  2. dm_n_stuff

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    After a major engine service (rebuild) I've had very little maintenance cost the 1st year. Maybe $500.00. (put about 3K miles on it this summer.)

    Oil change, checkup at 500 and 2500 miles to make sure all is well. But, it is my understanding that I'll need to keep a close eye on the valves, get them checked/adjusted every 10K.

    On the upside, the Dino has a chain for the cams, so the broken belt fear is not an issue.

    Tune up can be tricky. We're still tweaking it to get it to run really right.

    Gearbox is a little more fragile in 2nd gear. And a fix of the synchro in 2nd only serves to make you want to fix it every 10K miles or so.

    Most articles I've read feel that except for parts costs, the Dino can be just as expensive to maintain as a vintage V-12 F car. Only saving grace is you need half as many engine parts for a rebuild.

    Having said that. You also have to remember these are 30+ year old cars. Stuff is gonna break on them that won't on a newer car, just because they are older. Also more susceptable to rust. Some parts are made of pure unobtainium, and cost major $$$ to get, or have to be fabricated from scratch. Try finding a window frame piece, or some of the parts for the distributor. I have 8 or 9 places I call to try and find parts.

    Do you want a car that needs ot be tinkered with? And that needs you to be passionate about it yo keep it in top shape?

    To sum up. Parts can be scarce, and very expensive. Running cost seems to be in line with other classic F cars. Insurance is cheaper, you can get excellent coverage from a classic insurer for less than $300 a year. The car is a hoot to drive, unbelievable in the turns, and IMO, one of the most beautiful cars ever made.

    They are affordable to buy, not scarce and running up at mach 10 like the 250's and 330's, so that helps to mitigate some of the other costs.

    Where else can you get this much fun and beauty in a car for under $80K?
     
  3. Husker

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    Very helpful post, Dave! I agree that it is one of the most beautiful cars out there. How long have you had yours? Where did you find it? How many miles are on it?
     
  4. dm_n_stuff

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    #4 dm_n_stuff, Dec 29, 2004
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    A little over a year.

    I walked in to Algar Ferrari about a year ago and starting talking about my wanting to find a Dino that was affordable with the owner of the dealership.

    Imagine my surprise when he said to me, "Leave me your number, if I find something I'll give you a call."

    I figured I'd never hear from him, but less than a week later he called me and told me to get over there, that they had one that he had just brought in. I live a mile from the dealer.

    So I hustled down. He told me he had a couple of other folks who wanted the car, but that I had first refusal rights. We worked out a price, subject to a PPI. We settled on $62K for the car, did the PPI, and the car needed $20+K worth of work.

    Bob negotiated with the owner, we landed on a price after the ppi, and they did the work at Algar. End result, everyone, except the previous owner who had let the car get run down, went away happy.

    There is a nice blue one at Algar right now. GTS, US Spec, good shape, if you'd like details, PM me.

    Dave
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  5. Powerm99

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    Amazing thread from 2004; well bought Dave.
     
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  6. 2GT

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    Dave, in all likelihood, the blue Dino in your post is my Dino, 04808. It was sold by Algar in late 1973, but not delivered until April of 1974. Ironically enough, it has been at Algar since last December, for fluid service and various repairs. It was quite a surprise to see that picture of a car that I have owned since 1976! Thank you! Fred
     
  7. 2GT

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    My mistake, Dave. The blue GTS in your post must be my GT's open-top twin! I wonder where it is now? Fred
     
  8. Powerm99

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    @2GT any interest in selling your Dino; if it looks like the one in the photo then it must be in great condition?
     
  9. 375+

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    You need to disclose whether you are an actual buyer or an aspiring broker?
     
  10. Powerm99

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    Real buyer here, trying to find a legit, not story Dino. Seems hard to find these days.
     
  11. Powerm99

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    @375+ do you have Dino for sale?
     
  12. TTR

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    Might be worth to pay for subscription and place a "wanted" ad in classifieds...
     
  13. 375+

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    Nothing for sale, sorry.
     
  14. Skippr1999

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    To the original question, the answer is inexpensive for general maintenance. But, many times you will be restoring 50 yr old mechanicals. So it depends on what has been done to your specific car and your personal abilities at fixing things. They are a true joy to own.
     
  15. TTR

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    So nobody wishes to address real maintenance concerns/costs, which usually on ANY car, new or vintage, depends on usage, i.e. annual mileage ? :confused:
    Do you plan to drive enough to go through a set of tires in a year ? Two ? Three ? Brakes ? Even if driven as little as 2-3 thousand miles annually, it is good to replace all fluids, filters, etc at least once a year, rubber based/-type consumables, i.e. belts, bushings, hoses (esp, brake & fuel), tires, etc every 5 or so years...
     
  16. Neelfryer

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    It's a 300 thousand dollar car - insurance will cost a few bucks.
     
  17. 4CamGT

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    Great job! It has been my experience in SoCal that it’s really difficult to find someone really competent, knowledgeable, passionate AND affordable to work on a Dino that you can really trust. The Dino is actually a pretty simple, reliable and robust vehicle. I find most just take shortcuts and don’t really test a car thoroughly. They leave it to the owner to test it on a long drive which usually ends up with some issues. Dino’s are not like new cars or even vintage Porsches. There’s a lot of tricks and knowledge to make them really perform and work well. The problem is, most mechanics won’t or don’t have the knowledge anymore. I find the best is DIY along with some knowledgable Dino friends. This of course is the most affordable but also gives you the most confidence out on the road to either repair your Dino yourself or be better prepared to find someone. These are old cars. Even if your Dino has been 100% restored, there’s always a chance something will fail. My total maintenance costs have been really low. I’m still learning and depending on a few experience friends. It’s a great journey though and I love my Dino!
     
  18. Skippr1999

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    My exact experience on this side of the country too.
     
  19. LARRYH

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    for what its worth if you are really in the market for a DINO you should start a thread or an ad on this ferrarichat.. I did so in 2012 and was able to find a very nice Dino exactly like I was looking for in less than 30 days and many of the people on this thread provided assistance .. This is a great site for that kind of thing some of the most knowledgeable Dino people in the world are on this site...
     
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  20. Sergio Tavares

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    The Dino engine is very solid, chain drive cams mean only fluid changes, valve lash inspection every 30k Km. Change to modern ignition and spark plug should result in 15 Km before change. The most important is to look for oil drip.
     
  21. TonyL

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    Most importantly I would also check camshaft valve shim clearances every 3000-4000 miles
     
  22. Smiles

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    To make sure it is indeed dripping? :)

    To the OP: about half of what it costs to keep a V-12 Ferrari running!

    Matt
     
  23. Nuvolari

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    They all drip. If they don't it means they are out of oil :)
     
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  24. DinoLasse

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    Here I must politely and respectfully disagree. Dinos do not drip oil, in my experience. Unless you let them.

    Whenever I see even one drop of oil on the garage floor, I chase it down and fix what is causing the leak. Or, I terrorize my good friend the Dino mechanic until he or we together find the source of the leak.

    My Dino does not drip oil. Knock on wood (hitting my forehead now).
     
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