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Annual Monterey auction thread

Discussion in 'Vintage Ferrari Market' started by Timmmmmmmmmmy, Jul 23, 2023.

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  1. 375+

    375+ F1 World Champ
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    Dec 28, 2005
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    ^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^
     
  2. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    They screwed themselves out of a display deal on 6885.
     
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  3. 375+

    375+ F1 World Champ
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    Dec 28, 2005
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    More like a shave. The call him Cueball.
     
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  4. Prancing 12

    Prancing 12 F1 Rookie
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    May 11, 2004
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    The long way home
    I believe I was told that the car was sold now by the estate of the purchaser in 2014. If that was the case, there could be a number of reasons why the value achieved today was immaterial... i.e. they just wanted it gone.

    Nonetheless, demonstrates a huge financial loss and perhaps an overall cooling for an association with the, er, King of Cool ;)
     
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  5. Texas Forever

    Texas Forever Eight Time F1 World Champ
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    Apr 28, 2003
    85,600
    Texas!
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  6. Texas Forever

    Texas Forever Eight Time F1 World Champ
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    Apr 28, 2003
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    Whoever brought Jon Shirley's old Daytona at Gooding got a dea! $480,000. Damn.
     
  7. Juan-Manuel Fantango

    Juan-Manuel Fantango F1 World Champ
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    Jan 18, 2004
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    He always does well:D.

    As a CPA don't you miss the old 1031 rules on cars? I'm assuming it could be close to 30% tax on profit with all of the various taxes and fees? Give us a lesson on how to avoid that to the full extent of the law please.
     
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  8. Texas Forever

    Texas Forever Eight Time F1 World Champ
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    Today the best you can do is claim capital gains taxes and reduce gain by your basis. (I'm of the opinion occasional sales of valuable cars does NOT mean they are collectibles for tax purposes.)
     
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  9. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Could it be that we’re past peak McQueen? Finally?
     
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  10. turbo-joe

    turbo-joe F1 Veteran

    Apr 6, 2008
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    southwest Germany, France ( Alsace ) and Thailand
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    romano schwabel
    good that we not have in germany a capital gain tax for cars when you have them longer than 1 year
     
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  11. Texas Forever

    Texas Forever Eight Time F1 World Champ
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    Apr 28, 2003
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    Texas!
    Cool!
     
  12. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Well……to pay it ya gotta report it….:D
     
  13. roma1280

    roma1280 F1 Rookie
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    May 2, 2010
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    Palm Beach, Roma
    Steve McQueen died in 1980, the 4 cam is a car that is over 50 years old. Many of the current crop of buyers aren’t in interested in either.
     
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  14. Ferrari 360 CS

    Ferrari 360 CS F1 Veteran

    Dec 4, 2004
    6,853
    Cape Town,SA
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    Jacques
    In my view the 2014 price was too high and perhaps the current price is more representative though if one looks at the full restoration Lost and Found car then one has wonder a bit more!
     
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  15. Nembo1777

    Nembo1777 F1 World Champ

    Nov 4, 2006
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    Marc Sonnery
    Plus they think we are talking about the Steve McQueen fashion guy...
     
  16. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Perhaps you’re thinking of Alexander….but there is a film director named Steve McQueen.
     
  17. Nembo1777

    Nembo1777 F1 World Champ

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    Ahah not sure but I only pay attention to fashion when a gf has expensive shopping wishes:eek:;)
     
  18. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    :cool:
     
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  19. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Just a cursory review of Gooding’s results looks like a very high percentage either passed or sold for amounts right at or far below low estimate.
     
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  20. DWR46

    DWR46 Formula 3
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    Jun 19, 2012
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    Exactly the point I made in another thread.
     
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  21. westextifosi

    westextifosi Formula Junior
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    Oct 20, 2009
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    Tex Timberlake
    Even going so far as to drive this car on at least one 1000 mile vintage rally after the restoration. One of my heroes!
     
  22. Texas Forever

    Texas Forever Eight Time F1 World Champ
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    Apr 28, 2003
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    Malcolm truly is the genuine article. I'm proud to call him my friend.
     
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  23. Juan-Manuel Fantango

    Juan-Manuel Fantango F1 World Champ
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    #98 Juan-Manuel Fantango, Aug 20, 2023
    Last edited: Aug 20, 2023
    I'd really like to see some media coverage on this so we could live through his deeds lol. I think he and some co-driver have driven across the country maybe six times in the 275 and Daytona and who knows what else? Might even make a good car guy book. I'm sure there are some stories in there. I heard something about a snow storm in Dallas? Last of a breed. Hard ass chargers. I thought I was after driving the old challenge race car 1000 miles one day. After a few of those that was enough. Iron men. They don't need no cialis...
     
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  24. Texas Forever

    Texas Forever Eight Time F1 World Champ
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    Yeah, he is the real deal.
     
  25. sixcarbs

    sixcarbs F1 World Champ
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